> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Meadors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 07 Nisan 2004 Çarşamba 16:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: R: ORM Tools (Ibatis, Hibernate, OJB....)
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/07/04 6:11 AM >>>
> >> Just to be up front, I will tell you now that I am NOT an O/R fan.
> :-)
> > I think that when you have 50 tables in your db and your 
> app is just a
> big
> > gui front end Hibernate is very good. Suppose in one of 
> this 50 tables 
> > a field is added. With iBatis you have to re-write 4 
> methods (update, 
> > insert, delete, select), while with hibernate you just have 
> to add the
> 
> > field to your xml mapping file.
> 
> But really, how difficult is that? IMO, we are talking about 
> 5 minutes either way. IMO, the time is not in the code, but 
> rather in the testing.
> With iBATIS, you can find where the modified sqlmaps are 
> being used. In Hibernate, you can not because it is all done 
> behind the scenes, especially in the case of...
> 
> > lazy loading
> 
> ...which has been in iBATIS for a long time. You can define 
> those in your sql map and it will do it just fine. :-)
> 
> Larry
> 

I think nobody mentioned Torque as an ORM tool. Does anyone want to share some 
thoughts about Torque ? Especially who have used Hibernate or iBatis too..

Regards.
/tb.


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