I agree. It only takes a few hours to learn, and you can still use SQL to write your updates and queries.

At 02:27 PM 4/6/2004, you wrote:
Having used both, I would take iBATIS any day (and twice on sunday)
because of the simplicity - especially if you are coming from a JDBC
world.

It is non-intrusive, very easy to set up, the source is super easy to
look at, and Clinton (the owner) is very responsive to changes.

Larry

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/06/04 12:47 PM >>>
Likewise, I don't know much about iBatis, but from looking at their
docs, it seems closer to traditional JDBC. We use Hibernate and have
been very happy with it, but there was bit of a learning curve involved,
especially in understanding how to write the xml mapping files that
Hibernate uses to create tables and define relationships.

Also, Hibernate frees you from JDBC, but it has its own query language
(HQL) that is very much like SQL.


From: Paul Barry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I don't know much about ORM toools, but I can say that iBatis SQL Maps
is not an ORM tool.  As I understand it, ORM tools map java object to
database tables, whereas SQL Maps map java objects to SQL statements.
iBatis just makes using JDBC much easier, whereas ORM tools hide the
JDBC from you, doing the persistence work for you.  Hibernate and OJB
might be useful depending on your project, but SQL Maps will be an
easier transition for you if you are used to working with JDBC,
especially in a place where you may have people that specifically work
on writing and tuning SQL queries.

Marcelo Epstein wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks everybody!
> Now I am convinced to use an ORM tool. The big problem is whitch one?
> Hibernate? Ibatis ?OJB? Whitch one is preferable to use with Struts??
>
> Macelo Epstein
>
>
>
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:29:21 -0600, "Larry Meadors"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>
>
>>De: "Larry Meadors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Data: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:29:21 -0600
>>Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Assunto: Re: Connection Pooling (How i use...)
>>
>>I have yet to see a *good* example of how to do jdbc on the net.
>>
>>Most are very simple one-off "throws SQLException" examples that don't

>>seem to take into consideration little things like stability and
>>releasing resources. :)
>>
>>That is why I think tools like iBATIS are so powerful - you get all
>>the power of JDBC without the pain.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/06/04 11:15 AM >>>
>>
>>Now I am closing the connection in the finally block.
>>The exemple...
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