Is there an easy way to do that outside of just enabling short lived
sessions and not putting anything in them?  (That is, only use them to
store a validated user?)


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Jared Bunting
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I believe that the common way for REST APIs to address this is to use
> short-lived auth tokens.  This basically gives you the same thing as the
> sessions without the "stateful" part of sessions.
>  On Nov 7, 2013 6:23 PM, "Josh Berry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> One real quick suggestion, if you can, go ahead and enable sessions.  I
>> believe that gets you basically what you want.  When the user is
>> successfully authenticated, from that point on you will actually be relying
>> on the session cookie instead of the authentication cookie.  If the
>> "session" is ever not found, you then create a new one and authenticate it.
>>
>> I realize this breaks the "stateless rest" backend, and I have far from
>> thought it through.  Just an idea that occurred to me as being rather easy
>> to get running.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Josh Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> To be fair, more iterations is a good idea. I'll try and take a look
>>> this evening and see if i can figure something out.
>>> On Nov 7, 2013 4:04 PM, "saadmufti" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I tried that and that worked!!! So you were right. Also stepped
>>>> throught
>>>> the code and verified:
>>>>
>>>> 1) the authentication info getting cached is the hashed version
>>>> 2) all the caching is saving is getting the info from disk, it is still
>>>> hashing the passed in auth info all over again to compare to the info it
>>>> gets from the cache
>>>>
>>>> So yes reducing the number of iterations immensely speeds this up, I
>>>> vaguely
>>>> remember now that I used 500000 a couple of months ago after reading
>>>> some
>>>> blog post that recommended upping the iterations for more security.
>>>> Shows
>>>> you the perils of following advice without completely understanding.
>>>>
>>>> What would be ideal would be if the caching would work like how you
>>>> suggested, that is it would cache the plaintext after comparing and use
>>>> that
>>>> for the future as long as the cache entry existed. But right now it
>>>> does the
>>>> opposite, it caches the hashed info and hashes the plaintext
>>>> username/password passed in and then does the comparison.
>>>>
>>>> Any quick ideas on how to tweak this to do what you suggested?
>>>> Prefereably
>>>> not involving heavy duty subclassing etc. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all your help.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Saad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>

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