Strange... are we really doing this? 

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> On Sep 9, 2021, at 2:32 AM, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
> 
> Strange, I am using iPhone 5SE and it is on 14.7.1
> 
> Ali
> 
>> On 9/9/21 10:19 AM, Denis Noctor wrote:
>> Yes Ali... but I am using an iPhone 6... max iOS version being 12.5.4. I 
>> can’t upgrade past this version... which makes it a tad redundant. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 2:07 AM, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Denis,
>>> 
>>> You are sending your emails from an iPhone, so I assume you are using iOS 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> Ali
>>> 
>>>> On 9/9/21 9:55 AM, Denis Noctor wrote:
>>>> Okay... I remember. Will ask my Mac users tomorrow if have any similar 
>>>> probs / issues. Don’t have iOS access either.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 1:49 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There were multiple issues with Safari at iMac
>>>>> Some were fixed by me (thanks to Jason), some by Safari developers
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess some issues with iOS are still remains :(
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 13:46, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 1:42 AM, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That was long time ago, and was resolved. I will ask and return to you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ali
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/21 9:39 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> I guess there is the issue with audio on iOS devices (iPhone/iPad)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 13:33, Ali Alhaidary 
>>>>>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What error? We did not get any complains from our teachers or 
>>>>>>>>> students...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ali
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/21 9:15 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 05:31, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you figured out the iOS issues?  If not.  I have been playing 
>>>>>>>>>>> with a different solution for now and it works fine on all iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>> devices.  It is using JavaScript I am running it on Node.JS.  The 
>>>>>>>>>>> project is called MiroTalk on GitHub.  It is a very young project 
>>>>>>>>>>> WebRTC.  It has taken me two weeks to help fix bugs, but works.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I had no chances to investigate this issue since I don't have iOS 
>>>>>>>>>> devices :(
>>>>>>>>>> I'll take a look at the MiroTalk code :)
>>>>>>>>>> I would appreciate if you can share JS errors from iOS devices :)
>>>>>>>>>> this will help to reduce the amount of work need to be done :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you can take a look at the code for setting up the video on 
>>>>>>>>>>> iOS and modify open meeting to work. This is the only issue holding 
>>>>>>>>>>> me back from using Open Meeting again.  Needs to work on all iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>> devices.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 02, 2021 at 10:35 AM, Ali Alhaidary 
>>>>>>>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Well done, works for me as well, lets see teachers and students ...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ali
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/21 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2616
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> now everything works for me as expected :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 May 2021 at 06:52, Ali Alhaidary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same on demo-next, only one TA (tutor) has this iPad, but one big 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstetrical is removed now                                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                    :-) we are not into using cams anyway ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ali
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/21 2:26 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo-next works, but seems to have some issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will try to debug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2021, 04:43 Ali Alhaidary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It works on iOS phones till now, however, on iPad Air (second 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation) using the camera freezes the screen, and, can not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> export in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PNG or PDF...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ali
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/21 7:29 PM, Alvaro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ...yes, it works the sound and video.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Big Sur 11.3 - Safari 14.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ...........
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Sat, 1 May 2021 18:45:15 +0300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> It works :-)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> We will keep testing on different models
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Ali
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On 5/1/21 5:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> It seems Safari 14.1 is out :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Can someone with Apple device confirm it? :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> And check audio in OM ....? :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 11:46 Ali Alhaidary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>      May be one should take a look at the html5 code of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> some other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>      applications (such as BBB) and see how they sorted it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> out ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>      Ali
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>      On 4/6/21 7:30 AM, Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>      Anything that try’s to query the microphone gets no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> device.  So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>      maybe it just need to select the default system wide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> and request
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>      access.  It seems once it has access it can capture 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> the                                                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>    mic on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>      the IOS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>      Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          On Monday, Apr 05, 2021 at 11:27 PM, Jason 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> <ja...@romos.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          <mailto:ja...@romos.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          This works for sending audio in safari iOS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/peerconnection/webaudio-input/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> <https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/peerconnection/webaudio-input/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          Not sure what option is being used for OM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>          Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              On Monday, Apr 05, 2021 at 10:59 PM, Ali 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Alhaidary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              On 4/5/21 11:44 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              <mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              I think what you are referring to is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> long term issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              that microphone capture on iOS/Safari 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Playing back video/audio from other users is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              iOS/Safari.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Publishing Camera is also fine on iOS/Safari.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              All browsers on iOS (safari, ff and chrome)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Just publishing your own audio using the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> built in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              microphone on iOS/Safari doesn't work with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> webRTC/HTML5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              The answer from Apple/webkit was to: If we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> can raise an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              issue report at bugs.webkit.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              <http://bugs.webkit.org/>. Then Apple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> support /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              developers are willing to look into it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              However the bug report has to be based on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              neutral/reference example. For example use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              examples from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/webrtc/samples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              <https://github.com/webrtc/samples> to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> validate the bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              is the same on their official examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              Should I do that, or, it has already done?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Also please use the latest Safari/webkit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> version to test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              and verify against examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>              I do not do coding anymore :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Seb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 20:15, Ali Alhaidary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>              <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>                  Still not working. Any way I can help to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> sort this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>                  issue ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>                  Ali
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim

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