Oh my goodness; so silly! After each restart of the machine, each time I
did launch all the services: mysql (it autostarts), docker, kurento,
tomcat..... except the coturn! I had just completely forgotten about the
need to launch coturn.

You are right, Maxim! Coturn was not started. I followed your suggestion,
killed the extra tomcats and launched coturn. Everyrhing works superbly now!

My international meeting failed yesterday due to this simple oversight on
my part. No worries, I will schedule a new one.

And thank you for showing me a more efficient way of doing the 'ps' command
by piping it to grep to see only the processes I am interested in.

Have a good afternoon.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 02:55 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well,
>
> I can see you have 3 tomcats running (which is weird)
>
> And no turn server
> Please start one and re-check :)
>
> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 13:35 Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Maxim,
>>
>> Thank you. May be that was my problem: I should not have moved from 18.04
>> to 20.04...
>>
>> That also was my very first thought: either the Fire Wall or the router
>> block the ports. That was the fist thing I checked.  In Firewall, all the
>> relevant ports (listed in Alvaro's document) are listed as "ALLOW IN".  And
>> the Internet Service Provider assured me that none of those ports is
>> blocked.
>>
>> I also attach the output of that command that you suggested.
>>
>> I do appreciate your attention to this; I know you are probably swamped
>> with questions.
>>
>> Robert.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 01:53 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Robert,
>>>
>>> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 in production due to it has native support for KMS
>>> You can check if everything up and running using
>>>
>>> `ps -ef| grep 'turn\|kure\|tomcat'`
>>>
>>> (for Ubuntu 20.04 there will be no process for KMS)
>>>
>>>
>>> your issue might be caused by the FW in the middle
>>> TURN will not work if its ports are blocked
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 12:23, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Denis, thank you!
>>>>
>>>> I did try to reboot and start the services multiple times, to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> However, your response may indicate the potential issues:
>>>>
>>>> I followed word-for-word Alvaro's guide "Installation OpenMeetings
>>>> 5.0.1 on Ubuntu 20.04 lts.pdf", written on 23-9-2020.
>>>>
>>>> So, the potential issues:
>>>>
>>>> 1) That guide talks about Tomcat3 only, while you mention Tomcat4.
>>>>
>>>> 2) That guide calls Curento "kms", as in "sudo docker start kms", but
>>>> you say it should be "sudo /etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start".
>>>>
>>>> I have faith in Alvaro's work, as I had relied on it before. But, we
>>>> all make mistakes.
>>>>
>>>> So, which way is correct?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 01:10 Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... follow up to last message, assuming Tomcat4 is installed... try
>>>>> reboot... then in the following order:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Ubuntu... 18.04)
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/coturn start
>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start
>>>>> sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat4 start
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I believe TURN should be configured because I religiously
>>>>> followed Alvaro's installation guide to the letter.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just checked the Turn setup, and it corresponds precisely to
>>>>> Alvaro's suggestions. Is there a resource in addition to Alvaro's guide
>>>>> that I should follow?
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, all the users who are on the same network as the server,
>>>>> can enjoy OM beautifully. However, users who are outside of the network 
>>>>> can
>>>>> see and hear only themselves. For all others, they see only the photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> I, as the administrator, do remain on the same network as the server,
>>>>> but can not see or hear the participants who are outside the network,
>>>>> again, only the photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, I thought that perhaps the firewall or the router are blocking
>>>>> some ports. But that is not the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I did notice these two odd facts:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) there is *no* logfile in the /var/log/turnserver directory. The
>>>>> directory is empty. Which seems to suggest that Turn never ran... (the log
>>>>> file *is* listed in the /etc/turnserver.conf file).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) whenever I issue the command: "service tomcat3 status", it tells me
>>>>> that it is inactive. If i restart it by using the command
>>>>> "/etc/init.d/tomcat3 restart", it still apprears as inactive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomcat configs are consistent with Alvaro's guide....
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 21:48 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Robert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have TURN server configured?
>>>>>> Audio/video is absent from both(multiple) parties? or just some of
>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 01:25, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All my tests were fine. But now, I am running a live
>>>>>>> (trans-Atlantic) session, and there is no video or sound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chat box works. White board too. KMS seems to be running and no
>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 04:12 Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if you are a heavy user of the WB, you can add icons to
>>>>>>>> /opt/om-folder/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts/ and use it in your
>>>>>>>> presentations/lectures :-)
>>>>>>>> On 10/28/20 10:28 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every "silly question" most probably highlights UX issue ...
>>>>>>>> Please let us know if you see how user interface can be made more
>>>>>>>> intuitive :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 14:02, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I supposed before: this was a silly question on my part. Please
>>>>>>>>> forgive me for not being aware of the options (2) and (3) that you
>>>>>>>>> mentioned. They are what I sought. I am becoming more familiar with 
>>>>>>>>> OM.
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 02:29 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it sounds like we are talking about different things
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently there are 3 download options for WB
>>>>>>>>>> 1) *diskette icon* in WB tools - will save WB in internal
>>>>>>>>>> format, you can then load saved WB and use it's objects (no download)
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Menu -> Action -> *Download as PDF* - will convert current WB
>>>>>>>>>> to PDF format and will show you "save as" dialog
>>>>>>>>>> 3) Menu -> Action -> *Download as PNG* - will convert current WB
>>>>>>>>>> to PNG (current slide only) format and will show you "save as" dialog
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which option are you using?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 13:15, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. For now, i just need the pdf file. So, if you are
>>>>>>>>>>> saying it is already being saved, that's perfect!  However, I could 
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> find it anywhere on my machine. For example, when i saved the 
>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>>>>>> image to file Lenta.pdf, it appears among the files attributed to 
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting room, but I could not find Lenta.pdf anywhere on the hard 
>>>>>>>>>>> drive...
>>>>>>>>>>> and downloading it from the meeting room is disabled (I still can 
>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>> the files that I uploaded, but not pdf image of the board).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An unrelated question. I took about one entire day to translate
>>>>>>>>>>> all of the interface into the Lithuanian language. So, now I have 
>>>>>>>>>>> OM in
>>>>>>>>>>> Lithuanian, for some of the very few (senior-age) users who are 
>>>>>>>>>>> still not
>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable with English.  Do you want me to send you the *_lt* 
>>>>>>>>>>> file for
>>>>>>>>>>> inclusion in OM asortiment of languages?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 20:51 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIR save whiteboard as PDF is implemented via download PDF
>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you are talking about "Save whiteboard"? it saves whiteboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the tree, BUT this is NOT PDF ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is JSON and I'm not sure why do you need to download it
>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 22:22, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>>>>>> rob...@savickas.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Maxim and Thomas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I installed the latest OM afresh, not updating the old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. So, Applications Context file should be current. I did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My uploaded files can be downloaded without a problem at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the PDF files saved from the whiteboard --- not at all... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as that indicated by Thomas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Thomas Scholzen <tschol...@buche17.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CC: *Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Received: *Oct 27, 2020 10:45:19
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Download whiteboard file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, after upload I can download a PDF. But not a PDF that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> generated from the whiteboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.10.2020 14:57, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just have tested on https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded PDF is downloadable as "PDF" and "Original"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 20:27, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by design downloadable types are: images, documents and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recordings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whiteboard saved as PNG or PDF should be downloadable, will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to double-check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 19:57, Thomas Scholzen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tschol...@buche17.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked in detail. I can download .jpg, .pdf, .rtf. and .doc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files after I uploaded them. I can not download .avi files (even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh upload) and .pdf files generated by saving the whiteboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.10.2020 13:30, schrieb Thomas Scholzen:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked and I also can not download documents from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder view. However, I can download the content of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard by using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "actions" from the menu and "download as PDF".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.10.2020 08:58, schrieb Robert Savickas:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure the question below has already been asked, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably falls into the category of silly questions. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask, as I need to use this feature in a meeting that occurs in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did some work in the whiteboard and saved it in a pdf file,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which appears in the list of files for the given meeting room. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I try to download it to the local disk of my Ubuntu 20.04 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> download button seems disabled. I have been trying to figure it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems in vain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am the administrator; so, have all the rights...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>

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