Thanks Maxim. Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Should be fixed > please check next build :) > >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 10:39, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Of course Maxim. When you click the check button and then click ok, the pop >> up message will disappear (as intended)... it will work as expected but for >> one attempt only. When you double click another user’s video pod to speak >> (with the intention of muting others)... the microphone graphic is displayed >> but nothing happens. >> >> As a result, a user needs to delete their cache in order to revert back to >> the pop up message approach... in order to be able to mute all users except >> the designated speaker etc. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> All the best. >> >> Denis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 29, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Denis, >>> >>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 00:12, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi there Maxim, >>>> >>>> It was my intention to get back in touch with you earlier. Just a quick >>>> note to say that I tested the mute options as previously discussed. I >>>> upgraded to the 5.1.0-SNAPSHOT (Revision 1bcd4c0). Thanks for looking into >>>> that fix, much appreciated! Generally speaking it works as normal... IF >>>> you do not click on the "Don't ask again" checkbox before clicking >>>> "OK"...screenshot below. >>> >>> Could you describe what is wrong if this checkbox is clicked? >>> >>>> I also tested this on https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/ ... giving >>>> the same results (tested with 3 users, 3 computers, Chrome (latest >>>> version)). Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> All the best, Denis. >>>> <Mute_Checkbox.jpg> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:03 PM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hello Denis, >>>>> >>>>> 5.0.0(and 5.0.1) have lots of DB changes comparing to 5.0.0-M4 (If I do >>>>> remember correctly) >>>>> so you need to perform import/export >>>>> (you always can backup DB, try to re-use 5.0.0-M4 DB with 5.0.1 and >>>>> restore DB if it will not work :))) >>>>> >>>>> To properly "apply" the change in these 2 JS files you need to rebuild OM >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 00:41, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Thanks a lot Maxim. (Tried to keep email shorter than others 😂). I >>>>>> assume that this fix is not included in the 5.0.1 release but can be >>>>>> downloaded via the snapshot #60 >>>>>> (https://builds.apache.org/job/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/lastBuild/) >>>>>> (5.1.0). As I have gigs of docs currently uploaded - doing a backup and >>>>>> reinstall might be disruptive but will plan to do so over the next week >>>>>> or so... do you think simply implementing the changes that were made to >>>>>> the raw-video-manager.js and the raw-video.js would be a sufficient >>>>>> "quick fix" - bearing in mind, I am still using 5.0.0-M4, (Revision: >>>>>> 9753e61) - and would this require a restart? >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Denis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:41 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2451 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the detailed description! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 03:07, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Sure, if you think it helps. It can be easily tested out... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (I retested using a public room via: >>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#room/116) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clicking on a users video pod ... irrespective of what pod is clicked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <1.JPG> >>>>>>>> <2.JPG> >>>>>>>> <3.JPG> >>>>>>>> <4.JPG> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MODERATOR USING SHIFT + 12 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <6.JPG> >>>>>>>> <7.JPG> >>>>>>>> <8.JPG> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <IMG_9.JPG> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:21 PM Mukul Shukla <mukulma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> pics >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:45 PM Denis Noctor >>>>>>>>>> <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi there Maxim, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Apologies for the previous long email. I had previously tried your >>>>>>>>>> suggestions - the results being the same on the OM demo site below: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I tested the following mute functionality on the >>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings demo site also and noticed >>>>>>>>>> the following (with 3 users): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SHIFT + F7 (works as expected as a quick on / off toggle for >>>>>>>>>> individual users) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SHIFT + F12 mutes all users (including moderator)... however, >>>>>>>>>> moderator and all participants will have to click individually on >>>>>>>>>> the "speaker /audio" of all participants if they want to hear each >>>>>>>>>> other again. >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it would be more useful to mute everybody... except the >>>>>>>>>> moderator... whereby everyone can at least hear the moderator. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Finally (the function I am really eager to use), clicking on a users >>>>>>>>>> video pod (or avatar when they have their camera deactivated) in >>>>>>>>>> order "mute microphones of others"... will result in the popup >>>>>>>>>> message "Do you really want to mute all users except this one?" ... >>>>>>>>>> but does not do anything. As I can't test this any further, I can >>>>>>>>>> only assume that would this mute the moderator also and if so would >>>>>>>>>> it best to "mute all others except this one and the moderator". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I tested this using the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox. When >>>>>>>>>> using Firefox the current hotkeys open the Firefox web debugging >>>>>>>>>> tools also.The room type I was using was "conference" >>>>>>>>>> (https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#room/98659). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Denis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:13 AM Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>>>>> <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Denis, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have to say this email is big :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 13:36, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there guys, I am using the previous version of OM prior to the >>>>>>>>>>>> current upgrade... which will probably solve my issue... but just >>>>>>>>>>>> in case... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am in a rare situation where some of my users are in the same >>>>>>>>>>>> office environment... and as a result there is the obvious sound / >>>>>>>>>>>> audio feedback. They are using multiple devices so my natural >>>>>>>>>>>> recommendation would be to “mute all users”... except me... when I >>>>>>>>>>>> want to speak... especially for longer periods of time... and then >>>>>>>>>>>> when I want user “x” to participate I would ask user “x” to >>>>>>>>>>>> “unmute” and talk... and when he/she is finished to “mute” >>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately when I “mute all users” it also mutes me (the >>>>>>>>>>>> moderator). My work-around is to inform the participants in >>>>>>>>>>>> advance that I will “mute everybody” to eliminate echo and >>>>>>>>>>>> feedback and then ask them to individually “unmute” me... and then >>>>>>>>>>>> them etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Again this is a rare scenario that might have slipped the net... >>>>>>>>>>>> the alternative would be to have external speakers for the audio >>>>>>>>>>>> (muting everyone... except the moderator) and using a.... for >>>>>>>>>>>> example... a conference microphone... to pick up on what each >>>>>>>>>>>> individual is saying... whereby on designated user in the group >>>>>>>>>>>> activates audio / mic etc but then in this situation it is quite >>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to know who is speaking... as that microphone is >>>>>>>>>>>> connected to one user’s computer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions, work-arounds on this? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If I understand the situation correctly >>>>>>>>>>> There is solution since version 2.0.0 (if I'm not mistaken) >>>>>>>>>>> As moderator you can click at video-pod of any user and let this >>>>>>>>>>> user to be the only speaker (this feature has name Exclusive audio) >>>>>>>>>>> Additionally there is Hot key for this listed here >>>>>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html >>>>>>>>>>> (mute.others.keycode) >>>>>>>>>>> And there should be special icon in case there is no video-pod, >>>>>>>>>>> just audio :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know the ideal situation would be for the participants to find >>>>>>>>>>>> different isolated positions in the building to work from... but I >>>>>>>>>>>> assure you... in this situation it is not physically possible... >>>>>>>>>>>> even though I am told they are taking Covid seriously. And >>>>>>>>>>>> honestly, I’ve exhausted all of these measures with the company. >>>>>>>>>>>> However, some of the workers do not have access to computers at >>>>>>>>>>>> home and as a result will share an office environment with a >>>>>>>>>>>> projector and so on. Please do not let this posting turn into >>>>>>>>>>>> something other than a tech and application usage recommendation / >>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion... because I’m honestly, I am tired, emotionally and >>>>>>>>>>>> mentally drained. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Finally @Maxim and @Sebastian... on a totally different note... I >>>>>>>>>>>> had a game of Chess on OM with my son recently (without screen >>>>>>>>>>>> sharing) ... which was fun... a little bit Mickey Mouse... but it >>>>>>>>>>>> worked... which makes me think we should open an “applications” >>>>>>>>>>>> usage group for OM... showing its practicality rather than >>>>>>>>>>>> anything else... whereby users can upload/download workable ideas, >>>>>>>>>>>> classes, ideas ... etc from the platform.... As an English >>>>>>>>>>>> teacher and exhausted business owner... hopefully this message >>>>>>>>>>>> will inspire... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There was proposal like this already: >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1904 >>>>>>>>>>> But, I'm afraid, the only realistic way to achieve some >>>>>>>>>>> interactivity on WB would be to create some sort of "plugable WB" >>>>>>>>>>> and provide detailed instruction how WB plugin can be created >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I have time and will to work on this :( (this looks to >>>>>>>>>>> me as some monster task :(( ) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Again, and sorry for the repetition, this platform can be used, >>>>>>>>>>>> with the proper guidance to deliver a professional class. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Denis. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim
