Yes  this   would be  clearer.

On 28/03/2020 11:20, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:

One last idea - and I understand that I am just a tester / user of this and that it is your project in which I participate ( I also participate in spark, hadoop, nutch - i love apache projects), but since you asked, I would change the color of everythign that is "ON" or enabled to green and everything that is "OFF" to red - just like the traffic lights!  For what it's worth, and I have nothing against the color orange!

Best Ed

Quoting i...@bureau-de-poste.net <mailto:i...@bureau-de-poste.net>:

Hello,

This is better - personally I would color the camera and mic icons that are activated, so they look "ON" - (without the slash of course) - and to indicate the "OFF" status - it is fine - with the slash.

For example, when you hover over (or mouse over) the tiny speaker icon in the dragable user rectangle we see the orange-colored old-fashioned microphone  image pop-up - this is excellent. I would also have theat tiny speaker icon in the dragable user rectangle in orange to indicate its state is "ON" when it is on - the other two tiny icons (refresh and minimize) at the top of the dragable user rectangle are fine in grey since they are settings to change not states and users know what to expect with them.

This is my advice since you asked - I'm more concerned with fonctionality! It is working well.

One question - I have tested this extensively in Chrome adn I notice that if one sets the volume of teh microphone different than 50 (in the tiny icon in the dragable user rectangle) -each time I refres the user it si reset to level 50. Is this desired? Wouldn't it be better to keep the last user volumn settings through a "refresh" since users will most probably use the refresh to see or hear another user who may have changed the state of their camera and microphone. This is just an idea - it is OK as it is since it's easy to reset it.

Thansk for the good work. I'll test this on FF adn Edge and if there are any problems will reply again.

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>>:

The demo is updated
Is it what you want? :)

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:58, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    done
    will update demo as soon build will be ready
    Will appreciate if you can test it :)

    On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:08, Maxim Solodovnik
    <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        it seems icons have to be changed ...
        give me couple of minutes

        On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:06, Marcus Schulz
        <m...@polarnetworks.de <mailto:m...@polarnetworks.de>> wrote:

            I experienced the same with these buttons. I had to read
            the tooltip also before clicking.
            Am Freitag, den 27.03.2020, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Juan
            Antonio Moreno Carmona:
            Well, for my part I agree with the suggestion provided by Ed. I 
think it
            is more intuitive. Maybe other users can contribute their opinion.
            El 27/3/20 a las 11:29, BBS Technik escribió:
            I think it is a good ideal to swap it.
            Regards
            Ed
            Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 um 11:22 Uhr
            Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <
            solomax...@gmail.com  <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>
            >
            An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
            user@openmeetings.apache.org  <mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>
            >
            Betreff: Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier 
user experience with the software
            Well
            To implement this I need to swap 2 lines of code
            No problem at all if community will approve this
            On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 17:19, <
            i...@bureau-de-poste.net  <mailto:i...@bureau-de-poste.net>
            > wrote:
            Hello everyone,
            I love this software 5.0.0 M3 (running on Ubuntu 18.04) with KMS 
6.13
            A few questions and an important suggestion:
            1) I have been unable to install this on debian buster so that it 
works
            well - can this be done? How? We'd like to be able to use this on 
buster.
            2) When having inexperienced users test our M3 version (and when 
testing
            the M4 version -the same problem exists):
            The left-hand user column symbols for camera and microphone 
indicate to-do
            action links, and I think they should indicate actual states - 
because this
            is more intuitive and is what users expect.
            So, I suggest instead of showing a microphone with a red circle 
with a
            white "x" in it in M3 or an orange old-fashion mic symbol with a 
slash
            through it in M4 to indicate that the mic is "ON" and that you have 
to
            click on it to turn it "OFF", I suggest that exactly the opposite 
be shown:
            the actual state of the feature - that a slash through a symbol 
(perhaps in
            grey to double indicate it is off) indicates that it is "OFF" and a 
colored
            on symbol or icon without a slash indicates that it is "ON"
            The same suggestion for the camera.
            95 % of user problems that I have encountered result from this. 
Users see
            something with a slash through it and they think that means that it 
is
            "OFF" or not activated. Why not give users what they expect 
intuitively
            rather than force them to behave different than usual for this app?
            I love this app/project, and this is just a friendly suggestion, not
            criticism.
            best to all
            Ed
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