Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete files
to OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in moodle with
this plugin.
The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher wants to
delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'. Teacher should now
see a clean WB -no objects.
The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear.
Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the WB
and the mistake reappears.
.
Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real time.
Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should be the same
as OM.
Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to
remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Hello Daniel,
No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as
OM->Admin is designed for admins
I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world
Imaging following situation
Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
The auditory is clean and empty
Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
Then the first class ends
The Black board is all written
All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
Then next class should have same lecture ...
And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to
the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
<i...@collisiondetection.biz <mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as
clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same
as removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall
I try ?
On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual
add/remove files to the room
This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room
clean single WB
It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all
contents is dropped
Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its
white-board indices ....
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
<i...@collisiondetection.biz
<mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB'
we should honor that request with deleting the files
on the WB. The files should not reappear on the WB.
If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should
be removed from the file list.
I have included a picture that shows what should be
the equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Yes
It is by design
Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room
being accessed the first time
The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to
check the room after the lesson is over ....
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
<i...@collisiondetection.biz
<mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
Deleting files from the list of room files does not
remove the files from the WB in real time though ,
does it ?
On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
No,
File are deleted from the list of room files (can be
checked in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
So I see no area of improvement here
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
<i...@collisiondetection.biz
<mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
You delete files from the WB then they
reappear. I think this is the confusing aspect.
Can you please program it so that you click
delete then they are deleted and do not
reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
Thanks,
Dan
On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
I just have tested (using demo-next)
All objects including manually added files and
drawings are being removed
THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
So WB will look like on first enter
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
<i...@collisiondetection.biz
<mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
The clean WB button does not clean the
files Maxim. Nothing is removed from the WB.
On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Daniel,
"Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list
for the room
So if room is accesses for the first time:
these files will be loaded to the room
On the second enter all WB items including
files and drawings will remain "as-is"
You can use "Clean WB" button this way all
existing room items (including drawings and
manually added items) will be wiped out
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
<i...@collisiondetection.biz
<mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
Sorry for the repetition but the
logic is difficult to grasp.
All I want to do is delete a file
from the WB in real time. I can not
see how the logic below achieves that.
You say it deletes file from
auto-pre-load. How does that work?
On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
wrote:
Daniel,
I wrote you many, many times: delete
checkbox only deletes files from "auto
pre-load"
Same way: you can manually draw
something on WB, manually drop some
files to WB
Exit and enter the room and you will see
same WB (with drawing and files)
You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
Then it will be re-created with new files
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel
Baker <i...@collisiondetection.biz
<mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
Ok so it is possible to delete
files but the process is rather
convoluted.
It makes me think 'remove' files
check box should have
beside it a button that says
'delete files and clean WB.
I created a video of the process of
deleting files. It seems
complicated. You can view it in VLC
media player.
https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
Thanks
Dan
On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker
wrote:
> Sorry to be harping on about this
but I can't get this Real
> Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>
> Can you please advise how to
make the delete functionality work.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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