in Germany

"Kleine Kinder - kleine Sorgen ..." ;-)

so... enough "off topic" ;-)

Am 10.09.19 um 11:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> In Russia we say: "Small kids - small problems ..." :)))
>
> Build server checks every hour if there were commits and starts the build
> Every build has "Changes" section which can be examined (for ex. [1])
> new build with this new feature will be available in ~1hour
>
> [1]
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/
>
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 16:14, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> btw 14 could also be worst... ;-)
>>
>> Am 10.09.19 um 11:08 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>> I stiil try to forget it... ;-)
>>>
>>> Am 10.09.19 um 10:56 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>> Thanks :)
>>>> My elder daughter is almost 14 so I do remember all those sleepless
>> nights
>>>> :)))
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 15:20, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and after birth even less time... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations!
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 10.09.19 um 09:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm expecting a daughter in upcoming days, so I have even less free
>> time
>>>>>> than usual :)
>>>>>> I'll try to implement this configurable behavior before M3 release
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the JIRA :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 14:12, René Scholz <
>>>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whats do you mean about our suggestions?
>>>>>>> If you want I make an insert in JIRA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 07.09.2019 um 14:29 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thank you very much, Ed and Hemant for your sight.
>>>>>>> I think it's a good idea if Maxim can implement this as a feature
>> into
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> admin-configuration.
>>>>>>> @Maxim: What do you mean?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 07.09.2019 um 12:51 schrieb BBS Technik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think, Hermant's thought is a good concept. OM is used in different
>>>>> use
>>>>>>> cases and if om can cover this scenarios, we have more potential
>> users.
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 07. September 2019 um 10:24 Uhr
>>>>>>> *Von:* "Coscend@OM" <om.insig...@coscend.com>
>> <om.insig...@coscend.com>
>>>>>>> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>> *Betreff:* RE: sharing programs/desktop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a thought.  Perhaps it can be offered as an option in admin
>> ->
>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Automatic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manual (default)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both are useful in different contexts.  Automatic is good for users
>> that
>>>>>>> use it only for screen sharing such as troubleshooting / IT training.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manual (default) is for audience that use other features in addition
>> to
>>>>>>> screen sharing.  Screen sharing will consume bandwidth and will slow
>>>>> down
>>>>>>> the other features.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <solomax...@gmail.com>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 7, 2019 3:18 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: sharing programs/desktop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can change current behaviour if there will be no objections ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019, 14:48 R. Scholz <
>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't believe that nobody is interesting in that feature.
>>>>>>> For me its important .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hm, but on the other side I have to accept it, if nobody write
>>>>> something.
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 06.09.2019 um 07:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is definitely possible
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just would like to get input from other users: would it be OK to
>> make
>>>>>>> this change?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 12:44, René Scholz <
>>>>>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be very happy if you are able to raise my hope: Is it
>> possible to
>>>>>>> bring the shared program on screen without mouse-click?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 04.09.2019 um 07:21 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with the "black screen" we supposed that. But, I say that, in sharing
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whole screen is OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the "sharing-icon" its a bigger problem (for me). The most
>> users of
>>>>>>> present are so sensitized that they not click.
>>>>>>> In the past I spent a lot of time to explain when I want a
>> remote-access
>>>>>>> with TeamViewer. The remote-access is not the
>>>>>>> problem, they need help, its the question (under windows) at the
>> start
>>>>>>> from TeamViewer ("UAC") to allow the access.
>>>>>>> This global UAV-warnings are so miserable.  Some of users refuse to
>>>>> click
>>>>>>> on "Yes".
>>>>>>> (OK, it is clear that TeamViewer want Admin-rights.)
>>>>>>> I hear from a lot of people that the IT-Department of their
>>>>> organisations
>>>>>>> give directives to not-click in a browser on anything
>>>>>>> which is not well known.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When it is possible it will be very nice to open the sharing-screen
>>>>>>> automatically when the moderator give it free. In my opinion
>>>>>>> the moderator featured his presentation himself, and the user looking
>>>>>>> without interaction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whats the meaning of the other?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 04.09.2019 um 05:30 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to answer point by point :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *"older Delphi-program its not possible, the client only receive a
>> black
>>>>>>> screen"* - actually browser performs screen-sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So i guess there are some limitation on Windows (most probably
>> something
>>>>>>> with graphics/overlay)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *"when I transfer the screen in the client-browser only the
>> sharing-icon
>>>>>>> appears"* - right now this icon blinks to attract user's attention
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Screen-sharing window is usually huge this is why user can close it
>> any
>>>>>>> time and re-open by clicking same icon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe sort of "text info popup" can help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 20:54, René Scholz <
>>>>>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I try to share a program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With an older Delphi-program its not possible, the client only
>> receive a
>>>>>>> black screen. We have this one year ago and
>>>>>>> you said that came from Kurento. But thats no problem, when I select
>> the
>>>>>>> whole screen it works. Its not the best solution, but it works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing that bother is when I transfer the screen in the
>>>>>>> client-browser only the sharing-icon appears.
>>>>>>> I (moderator) have to communicate that the person who view the
>>>>>>> presentation have to click on it and allow the question.
>>>>>>> In germany no user click on an question to allow anything - I have a
>> big
>>>>>>> problem with it.
>>>>>>> Many persons not find the icon (right top corner is difficult to
>> find)
>>>>>>> or they dont allow and switch off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please, can you find a solution that the sharing-window appears
>> without
>>>>>>> click on the icon? I mean, the moderator show what he want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> René
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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