Sure
We need to discuss it and create detailed JIRA issue :)

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Michael Wuttke <
michael.wut...@beuth-hochschule.de> wrote:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> maybe the "rights history" is something for a future relase? ;-)
>
> Thanks & greetings;
> Michael
>
> Am 09.12.2013 09:11, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > The problem is: we don't have "rights history" right now. So right after
> > rights escalation we have no options to differentiate 2 moderators :)
> > Additionally by default we have "first come become moderator" room mode
> :)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Michael Wuttke
> > <mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de <mailto:mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello Maxim,
> >
> >     I filed two minor issues:
> >     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-850
> >     &
> >     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-851
> >
> >     But I do not want to start a discussion about "moderator wars". ;-)
> >     I thought it would be better if a normal user with privileges of a
> >     moderator should not be able to kicking out/unenrole other
> moderators.
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Michael
> >
> >     Am 08.12.13 19:19, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >     > Thanks!
> >     >
> >     > please see inline in blue
> >     >
> >     > - the test of the pointer as moderator or non moderator shows not
> only
> >     > the firstname and the
> >     > name; the first name and two times the lastname are shown
> >     >
> >     > I believe this is another minor issue should be filed
> >     >
> >     > - a former non moderator, now with the privileges of a moderator
> given
> >     > by the modarator of the room, can
> >     > unenrole the first moderator works well, but is it a bug or not?
> >     >
> >     > This is by design, moderator can do anything including
> >     kicking/unenrole
> >     > other moderators, I believe there are no "moderator wars" in the
> >     real life.
> >     > Maybe we need to redesign roles in OM, but I believe this need to
> >     be widely
> >     > discussed first.
> >     > You can start discussion in case you would like to propose any
> >     changes, I
> >     > would really appreciate any help in this :)
> >     >
> >     > - to create a interview room via moodle and using it as moderator
> >     and non
> >     > moderator works well; but there is one confusing thing:
> >     > In the interview room exists the posibility for the moderator to
> >     upload a
> >     > file but there is no WB or file directory to use. What is it good
> for,
> >     > this upload function?
> >     >
> >     > This seems to be another minor issue, Most probably Upload should
> be
> >     > hidden/disabled for interview room
> >     > Could you file an issue?
> >     >
> >     > Thanks a lot for your help!
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Michael Wuttke
> >     > <mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de
> >     <mailto:mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de>>wrote:
> >     >
> >     >> Hell Maxim,
> >     >>
> >     >> ok it's done, I filed a minor BUG to JIRA:
> >     >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-849
> >     >>
> >     >> Please can you tell what is the other objections?
> >     >>
> >     >> - the test of the pointer as moderator or non moderator shows not
> >     only
> >     >> the firstname and the
> >     >> name; the first name and two times the lastname are shown
> >     >> - a former non moderator, now with the privileges of a moderator
> >     given
> >     >> by the modarator of the room, can
> >     >> unenrole the first moderator works well, but is it a bug or not?
> >     >> - to create a interview room via moodle and using it as moderator
> >     and non
> >     >> moderator works well; but there is one confusing thing:
> >     >> In the interview room exists the posibility for the moderator to
> >     upload a
> >     >> file but there is no WB or file directory to use. What is it good
> >     for,
> >     >> this upload function?
> >     >>
> >     >> Thanks,
> >     >> Michael
> >     >>
> >     >> Am 08.12.13 17:03, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >     >>> Please file this is as minor BUG to JIRA :)
> >     >>> Will try to fix it in next release :)
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Michael Wuttke
> >     >>> <mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de
> >     <mailto:mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de>>wrote:
> >     >>>
> >     >>>> Hi Maxin,
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> it works, when I use /usr/lib/red5/admin.sh -v -f --cleanup.
> >     But with
> >     >>>> some remains. May be they are not realy important. ;-)
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> When I delete the recordings via the GUI as the moderator of the
> >     >>>> conference room, the whole folder with the captured files will
> be
> >     >> purged.
> >     >>>> In my case it was the folder ~/streams/1:
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>
> >
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/1/rec_1_stream_fba9bd0473ae91d80fd5111f13d1426a_2013_12_06_14_55_23.flv':
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>
> >
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/streams/1/rec_1_stream_fba9bd0473ae91d80fd5111f13d1426a_2013_12_06_14_55_23_FINAL_WAVE.wav
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> In the folder ~/streams/hibernate the files flvRecording_1.flv,
> >     >>>> flvRecording_1.avi and flvRecording_1.??? will be deleted.
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> But in the folder ~/streams/hibernate the file
> >     flvRecording_1.flv.meta
> >     >>>> and in the tables flvrecording, flvrecording_log and
> >     >>>> flvrecording_meta_delta of the openmeetings database all the
> >     entries for
> >     >>>> the deleted recording still exists.
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> Thanks,
> >     >>>> Michael
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> Am 07.12.13 02:00, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >     >>>>> Cleanup is the purge. ;) does it work for you?
> >     >>>>> On Dec 7, 2013 2:15 AM, "Michael Wuttke"
> >     <mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de <mailto:mwut...@beuth-hochschule.de>>
> >     >>>>> wrote:
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Hello Maxim,
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> I did the cleanup with:
> >     >>>>>> /usr/lib/red5/admin.sh -v -f --cleanup
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> What would be the purge option in this case?
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Thanks in advance,
> >     >>>>>> Michael
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>> Am 06.12.13 17:35, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >     >>>>>>> Hello Michael,
> >     >>>>>>> please try to purge already deleted records using
> >     >>>>>>> clean option of admin?
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Michael Wuttke <
> >     >>>>>>> michael.wut...@beuth-hochschule.de
> >     <mailto:michael.wut...@beuth-hochschule.de>> wrote:
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Hello Maxim,
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> thank you for your great work. ;-)
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> I tested the latest OM 2.2 version build 24 (with debian
> >     sqeeze, 4
> >     >> GB
> >     >>>>>>>> RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.67GHz & 1 GB LAN), with the
> following
> >     >>>> scenarios:
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> 1. create a conference room via moodle - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 2. enter the conference room via moodle as a moderator
> >     (Ubuntu 13.04
> >     >>>>>>>> with FF 25, 8 GB RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13GHz & 1 GB LAN)
> - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 3. test of audio and video as a monderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 4. upload a pdf, doc, docx, ppt, pptx, jpeg, jpg, png, gif,
> >     txt, xls
> >     >>>> & a
> >     >>>>>>>> xlsx file to the WB - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 5. zoom of the content in the WB as a moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 6. test the chat as moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 7. enter the conference room via moodle as a non moderator
> user
> >     >>>> (Windows
> >     >>>>>>>> 7 SP 1, IE 10, RAM 4 GB, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13GHz & 1 GB
> >     LAN) - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 8. test of audio and video as a non monderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 9. zoom of the content in the WB as a non moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 10. test the chat as non moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 11. test the private chat as moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 12. test the private chat as non moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 13. sync of the zoom of content in the WB for the non
> >     moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 14. start a screensharing session as the moderator via
> >     moodle - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 15. getting a screensharing session as non moderator user
> via
> >     >> moodle -
> >     >>>>>> ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 16. stopp the screensharing session as moderator via moodle
> >     - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 17. start a recording session as the moderator via moodle
> >     for just a
> >     >>>>>>>> minute with high quality - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 18. stop the recording session as the moderator via moodle
> - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 19. create an activity in moodle to see the recording again
> >     as the
> >     >>>>>>>> moderator - creating was ok (but playing the recording via
> >     moodle
> >     >> was
> >     >>>>>>>> "fast forwarded") !!!
> >     >>>>>>>> 20. play the recording again as the non moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 21. test the pointer as moderator - ok (not only the
> >     firstname and
> >     >> the
> >     >>>>>>>> name is shown: the first name and two times the lastname;
> see
> >     >> attached
> >     >>>>>>>> screenshot_pointer.jpg file)
> >     >>>>>>>> 22. test the pointer as non moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 23. a non moderator asks to become the privileges of a
> >     moderator -
> >     >> ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 24. a moderator can give a non moderator the privileges of a
> >     >> moderator
> >     >>>>>> - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 25. a former non moderator, now with the privileges of a
> >     moderator,
> >     >>>> can
> >     >>>>>>>> unenrole the first moderator - it works (Is this a bug or
> >     the normal
> >     >>>>>>>> behaviour?) !!!
> >     >>>>>>>> 26. move files from home drive to public drive as a
> >     moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 27. move files from  public drive to home drive as a
> >     moderator - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 28. delete all the files from the files directory - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 29. download the recording as flv & avi file and play them
> with
> >     >>>>>>>> vlc-player - ok (but playing the recording localy was "fast
> >     >> forwarded"
> >     >>>>>>>> as well) !!!
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> 30. backup & restore to test the function of deleting the
> >     recording
> >     >> I
> >     >>>>>>>> made in step 19. with the following steps:
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.0. stop the service: /etc/init.d/red5 stop
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.1. perform the export: /usr/lib/red5/admin.sh -b -file
> >     >>>>>> /tmp/backup.zip
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.2. unzip the backup file: unzip /tmp/backup.zip -d import
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.3. remove the recordings & delete the nodes from
> >     >> flvrecordings.xml
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.4. zip the files back to /tmp/import.zip: cd /tmp/import
> >     && zip
> >     >> -r
> >     >>>>>>>> /tmp/import ./*
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.5. recreate the om_db: mysql -u root -h localhost
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.6. drop database openmeetings;
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.7. CREATE DATABASE openmeetings DEFAULT CHARACTER SET
> 'utf8'
> >     >>>> COLLATE
> >     >>>>>>>> utf8_general_ci;
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.8. \q
> >     >>>>>>>> 30.9. perform the import: /usr/lib/red5/admin.sh -i -v -file
> >     >>>>>>>> /tmp/import.zip
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Step 30.9. ends with the following error message again;
> >     same same
> >     >> like
> >     >>>>>>>> in the last tests (I don't know what is wrong with my
> >     import.zip
> >     >>>> file):
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>  INFO 12-06 14:36:04.699 UsersDao.java 46882 163
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.data.user.dao.UsersDao [main] -
> >     [getUser]
> >     >>>> Info:
> >     >>>>>>>> No USER_ID given
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.705 ImportInitvalues.java 46888 858
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.installation.ImportInitvalues
> [main] -
> >     >>>>>>>> ImportInitValues.loadInitAppointmentReminderTypes
> >     >>>>>>>>  INFO 12-06 14:36:04.721 UsersDao.java 46904 163
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.data.user.dao.UsersDao [main] -
> >     [getUser]
> >     >>>> Info:
> >     >>>>>>>> No USER_ID given
> >     >>>>>>>>  INFO 12-06 14:36:04.727 UsersDao.java 46910 163
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.data.user.dao.UsersDao [main] -
> >     [getUser]
> >     >>>> Info:
> >     >>>>>>>> No USER_ID given
> >     >>>>>>>>  INFO 12-06 14:36:04.729 UsersDao.java 46912 163
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.data.user.dao.UsersDao [main] -
> >     [getUser]
> >     >>>> Info:
> >     >>>>>>>> No USER_ID given
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.799 ImportInitvalues.java 46982 505
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.installation.ImportInitvalues
> [main] -
> >     >>>>>>>> conference_Id: 1
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.804 ImportInitvalues.java 46987 512
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.installation.ImportInitvalues
> [main] -
> >     >>>>>>>> restricted_Id: 3
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.807 ImportInitvalues.java 46990 516
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.installation.ImportInitvalues
> [main] -
> >     >>>>>>>> interview_Id: 4
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.809 ImportInitvalues.java 46992 521
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.installation.ImportInitvalues
> [main] -
> >     >>>> RoomTypes
> >     >>>>>>>> ADDED
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.925 ImportInitvalues.java 47108 499
> >     >>>>>>>> org.apache.openmeetings.installation.ImportInitvalues
> [main] -
> >     >>>>>>>> Configuration ADDED
> >     >>>>>>>> DEBUG 12-06 14:36:04.927 BackupImportController.java 47110
> 201
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     org.apache.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.BackupImportController
> >     >>>>>>>> [main] - ##### WRITE FILE TO:
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>
> >
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/upload/import/import_2013_12_06_14_36_04
> >     >>>>>>>> [ERROR] [main] org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin - Restore
> >     failed
> >     >>>>>>>> java.io.FileNotFoundException:
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>
> >
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/upload/import/import_2013_12_06_14_36_04/recordingFiles/one_second.wav
> >     >>>>>>>> (Not a directory)
> >     >>>>>>>>         at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(Native Method)
> >     >> ~[na:1.6.0_26]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     >> java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:194)
> >     >>>>>>>> ~[na:1.6.0_26]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     >> java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:145)
> >     >>>>>>>> ~[na:1.6.0_26]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>
> >
> org.apache.commons.transaction.util.FileHelper.copy(FileHelper.java:268)
> >     >>>>>>>> ~[commons-transaction-jar-1.2.jar:1.2]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>
> >
> org.apache.openmeetings.servlet.outputhandler.BackupImportController.performImport(BackupImportController.java:219)
> >     >>>>>>>> ~[openmeetings-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:na]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     >> org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin.restoreOm(Admin.java:623)
> >     >>>>>>>> [openmeetings-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:na]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin.process(Admin.java:269)
> >     >>>>>>>> [openmeetings-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:na]
> >     >>>>>>>>         at
> >     org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin.main(Admin.java:630)
> >     >>>>>>>> [openmeetings-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:na]
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Than I reinstalled OM 2.2 (build 24) and repeated step 19.
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> 31. I deleted the recording as a moderator of the
> >     conference room
> >     >> via
> >     >>>>>>>> the OM GUI (But in the folders ~/streams/1 &
> >     ~/streams/hibernate the
> >     >>>>>>>> video files and in the tables flvrecording,
> >     flvrecording_log and
> >     >>>>>>>> flvrecording_meta_delta the entries for the deleted
> >     recording still
> >     >>>>>> exists)
> >     >>>>>>>> 32. Thats why I started a system cleanup with:
> >     /etc/init.d/red5 stop
> >     >>>>>>>> 33. /usr/lib/red5/admin.sh -v -f --cleanup - was ok (But in
> the
> >     >> folder
> >     >>>>>>>> ~/streams/hibernate the file flvRecording_1.flv.meta and in
> the
> >     >> tables
> >     >>>>>>>> flvrecording, flvrecording_log and flvrecording_meta_delta
> >     all the
> >     >>>>>>>> entries for the deleted recording still exists.)
> >     >>>>>>>> 34. create a webinar room via moodle and using it as
> >     moderator and
> >     >> mon
> >     >>>>>>>> moderator like in step 2. - 29. - ok
> >     >>>>>>>> 35. create a interview room via moodle and using it as
> >     moderator and
> >     >>>> mon
> >     >>>>>>>> moderator like in step 2. - 29. - ok (But there is one
> >     confusing
> >     >>>> thing:
> >     >>>>>>>> In the interview room exists for a moderator the posibility
> to
> >     >> upload
> >     >>>> a
> >     >>>>>>>> file but there is no WB or file directory to use. What is
> >     it good
> >     >> for,
> >     >>>>>>>> this upload function?) ;-)
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Thanks & greetings,
> >     >>>>>>>> Michael
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>> Am 06.12.2013 07:57, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >     >>>>>>>>> I'm going to pack RC1 based on 2.2.0#24
> >     >>>>>>>>> please let me know if you have any objections
> >     >>>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>>
> >     >>>>>>
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
> --
> Danke & mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Michael Wuttke
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