I would like to delete recordings after downloading them to clear disc space. I'm not sure why the 'drag to trash' option is there if the files are not really deleted. I need to remove them somehow as disc space is finite.
Thanks, Lee. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:32 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not really. > The files in the /streams/hibernate folder are the final videos of the > recordings. If you delete them all your recordings are gone. > > The files in the /streams/$ROOM_ID folders are the raw recording files. > Based on those files there is a complete video mixed (that is then produced > into the /streams/hibernate folder). > Theoretically you can delete the files in the /streams/$ROOM_ID folder as > the final mixed video is already produced. > However for recordings based on the interview room type, there is a > functionality to re-render the raw data but with some parameters to adjust > the audio (make it loader, delay the audio, et cetera). Those are useful if > you want to post-edit the video from inside OpenMeetings because for > instance one participant has a microphone that is a lot loader then some > other participant. Once the video is "mixed" into the final format there > would be no way of re-adjusting those settings. So there is some button in > the OpenMeetings UI to re-render the raw files with some additional > settings. > If you delete the files in the /streams/$ROOM_ID folders bascially the UI > functionality is pointing to files that do no more exist. > Also there are entries in the database that point to the files in the > /streams/$ROOM_ID directory. So in general, it would be basically a bad > idea to just delete those folders, UI functionality might be broken and the > data model would be inconsistent. > > Sebastian > > > > > 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com> > >> Is it safe for me to delete the sub-folders in the streams directory? >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Lee Saunders < >> leesenglishless...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thank you for the technical information. >>> I'm just going my my experience using another system in which each >>> meeting was tied only to the originator and could remain open over any >>> number of sessions, and then closed when complete. Once complete a PDF of >>> the whiteboard and accompanying documentation was created as a soft copy >>> for download, stored in the users account. So, even though the meeting had >>> been closed, a downloadable representation of the meeting was available in >>> an archive. I do see how Open Minutes works differently, though. >>> >>> All in all, Open Meetings is a great service. Thank you for creating it. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:27 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> We actually never physically delete anything, we just mark/flag as >>>> deleted and don't show it in the UI anymore. >>>> >>>> There are multiple reasons why you do that in software. For instance >>>> there are are often foreign key constraints. That means that you can't >>>> physically delete an user, cause this userId is a foreign key in some other >>>> tables. And by deleting the user physically you would get an inconsistance >>>> data model. >>>> This will become a real issue when you work with databases that have >>>> "real" foreign keys (postgres, oracle, MySQL InnoDB, et cetera). However >>>> even with data on disk in files, just because you "can" delete those files >>>> without throwing any error does not mean that this is a good idea, as for >>>> example records in the database still point to that file. By doing that the >>>> data model simply becomes inconsistent. Some references are missing, it >>>> pretty much gets a mess if you start to delete files. >>>> >>>> Another reason is that you want to keep track on changes that have >>>> happened. This is sometimes a legal requirement in companies and >>>> government. You just never delete hard, data must be always possible to be >>>> restored. For instance an user xyz claims his important file XXX was >>>> deleted at the 28.12.2009, now the sys admins need to recover that file. >>>> >>>> There are however attempts to have some kind of clean up tasks that >>>> delete such references to free up disk space. But if ever implemented it >>>> has to be done very carefully and clear to the sys admin that there is no >>>> way back, you will loose data and you probably should back up the data >>>> before doing it. >>>> >>>> Bottom line is: Don't delete, just flag as deleted. >>>> >>>> Sebastian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Ah, I see. I guess that does make sense. I just worry about having a >>>>> list of rooms that becomes too long to manage. >>>>> Perhaps then, completed meetings could go into an archive\ completed >>>>> events section, thus keeping them separate from pending events. >>>>> >>>>> I have also noticed that deleted recordings remain in the streams >>>>> folder (..\webapps\openmeetings\streams\). Why don't they get deleted when >>>>> moved to trash? >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> >>>>> Lee. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Lee, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think we should delete the room after a calendar event was >>>>>> terminated. Otherwise for example any uploaded or created data that was >>>>>> part of the conference room itself would be gone. >>>>>> Also you can attach existing rooms to multiple calendar events. So >>>>>> the relationship between room to calendar event is not 1:1. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/8/25 Lee Saunders <leesenglishless...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tested the calendar, but after the event had ended, the room >>>>>>> persisted. >>>>>>> Is there a way to terminate the event when the 'Exit' button is >>>>>>> clicked rather than delete the event in the calendar and receive a >>>>>>> 'Cancelled' message? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that if an event is terminated before the start or end time, >>>>>>> then yes, it is cancelled, but after the end time, a meeting has usually >>>>>>> ended. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lee. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >>>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > seba.wag...@gmail.com >
