Hi Ruth,
I spend a lot of time learning. I am learning new systems all the time
and to date I have implemented a multitude of opensource solutions . I
enjoy learning, I enjoy new technologies. The knowledge I need I
normally get from reading books. I have found that it is just not cost
effective (i.e. time effective) to try to learn from trial and error,
reading wikis or studying source code. I normally do not attend
training courses because I can't afford the lost consulting time.
Ebooks are great, you can print out a chapter, stick it in your back
pocket and read it waiting for a train.
In my mind, the best thing that has made ofbiz accessible to me are your
books and the book from Jonathon Wong. Unfortunately these resources
cover maybe 10% of the total knowledge needed to implement ofbiz.
When looking at returns, as a contractor, I usually notice what skills
the UK job boards are asking for. I have seen a few jobs recently
asking for adempiere and compiere skills. I have not seen many jobs
requiring ofbiz skills, but I do have a number of small companies that
want bespoke enterprise application development that suits the ofbiz
framework.
As for investment cost:
Adempiere functional implementation: ebook cost* - £20. Time to read -
40 hours.
*http://www.packtpub.com/adempiere-3-4-erp-solutions/book
Ofbiz functional implementation: training cost $$$$, additional time
to learn from wiki, source code etc - 300 hours (this is a wild guess).
Cheers,
Chris
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
Hello Christopher:
I'm wondering, since I've never had to use the OFBiz accounting
features to run a business, if you have analyzed the ROI on learning
and supporting another platform and software application such as
OpenBravo vs. dealing with the gaps in OFBiz accounting.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Ruth
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Olivier Tremblay wrote:
I wonder what will be decided. I need to be able to import from
Quickbooks too, so importation is a feature I'm looking for too. Hm.
So many aspects to consider in such an enormous system. :P
Le 2009-11-11 à 11:23, Christopher Snow a écrit :
The main problem I had with accounting is that for most of the
accounting features you had to use trunk, but trunk is unstable
which is a problem when you are trying to learning something new.
There was little documentation on the accounting component, and
when something doesn't work you don't know if you are doing
something wrong, if it's a bug, or if it's a feature.
Olivier Tremblay wrote:
I'm not an accountant at all, I did explore the features but it
looked pretty good. Which features seemed lacking to you most?
Le 2009-11-11 à 11:04, Christopher Snow a écrit :
My experience:
Ecommerce tends to be the main strength and focus of ofbiz.
Ofbiz accounting is the most immature area. I gave up on ofbiz
accounting and am now looking at OpenBravo / Adempiere.
Ofbiz is a fantastic enterprise application development framework
if you want to create your own apps.
Ofbiz needs a lot of customization to fit to an individual
business. There is very little documentation on the business
processes within ofbiz so you will have to spend a lot of time
working things out or pay for help.
Olivier Tremblay wrote:
Actually, we're not sure how deep we want to use it, but we need
it for accounting, project management, and pretty much the whole
business flow (which is, if I'm not mistaken, precisely the point
of OFBiz).
Le 2009-11-11 à 10:31, Harmeet Bedi a écrit :
Emforium(http://www.allinsoftware.com/), out of Waterloo Ontario
is.
Good platform but it has a learning curve. A lot depends on how
you want to use it. Our usage of ofbiz is very broad and deep.
Not sure if you are thinking o using only ecommerce side of it
or more or less.
Harmeet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Olivier Tremblay" <[email protected]>
To: "OFBiz Newsletter" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:03:27 AM GMT -05:00
US/Canada Eastern
Subject: OFBiz in Canada?
Hello all!
Just wondering if some of the readers here were using OFBiz in
Canada,
or even better, in Quebec! My company is considering the use of
OFBiz,
and as such I'm in charge of researching on the matter. We would
like
to hear from your experience!
Thank you all. :)
Olivier Tremblay
