On 30/11/15 11:21, Paul Uszak wrote:
> I think that one of the initial points people should address, prior to
> launching a publicity campaign, is: who is JSPWiki for?  It's pretty
> important to identify the market segment that efforts will then be made
> towards.  We could all just talk about it a lot, but it's more efficient if
> someone actually has an idea as to what is to be achieved, for whom.

Fair point, but some of this is already covered right on
http://jspwiki.apache.org/ and
http://www.ecyrd.com/JSPWiki/wiki/JSPWikiFeatures. Any organisation
looking for the particular features listed there would be in the target
market for JSPWiki, for instance.
 
> From a personal perspective as a user, it appears that JSPWiki is only
> suitable for a highly technical computer user.  I use it because it meets
> certain nerdy requirements.  Most casual users don't know what a server is.

I don't follow your logic at all. I don't think any organisation
interested in choosing JSPWiki to host instead of say Confluence or
MediaWiki expects their end users to install and run the product
themselves (comparisons to a desktop app such as Thunderbird are
completely apples to oranges).

> Dave, you can get an impression of what I'm talking about by comparing the
> ease of installation of Thunderbird to that of JSPWiki.  Therefore, if you
> think that we should be targeting developers /programmers, I would suggest
> that perhaps those who want JSPWiki, know or can readily find out about
> JSPWiki.  There might be an inherent danger of diminishing returns by
> publicising a highly technical product into the mainstream segment.
> Marketing 101 tells us not to advertise AR15s during the Super Bowl half
> time slot.

I'm referring to volunteering free time and effort with a fair amount of
existing expertise to a small project which suffers from a lack of
visibility (the JSPWiki page even got yanked from Wikipedia due to a
lack of notability) – not the Super Bowl.

I use JSPWiki for a variety of product and project documentation tasks,
and it largely excels at both. However, the legacy UI is getting long in
the tooth in terms of ease-of-use, and the problem with HADDOCK as far
as I am concerned is there are just not enough folks using it and
providing feedback. It's a great start but is not there yet for
full-time use (and I feel like a lone voice on JIRA). Hence why I'm in
strong agreement with the original author of this post, and why I'd
really like someone from the project to jump in here with some points of
view.

Cheers,
Dave


> On 29 November 2015 at 10:55, Dave Koelmeyer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Sorry to bump an ancient thread (which I bumped previously with no
>> response). There is still only a JSPWiki Facebook group with the same
>> whopping four members. Janne enabled admin access for me a long while
>> back, but what should happen ideally is to create a Facebook Page, and
>> perhaps an associated Twitter channel, and start spreading the word a bit.
>>
>> I'm super-happy to take the lead on this, but I imagine it would need to
>> be approved by Apache.
>>
>> I currently handle social networks publicity for Mozilla Thunderbird, so
>> I've got a fair bit of experience on this one.
>>
>> How can we get this progressed, and does anyone have any other points of
>> view?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz
>> GPG Key ID: 0x238BFF87
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/04/14 15:31, Dave Koelmeyer wrote:
>>> On 4/10/2014 8:54 PM, Siegfried Goeschl wrote: Hi folks,
>>>> the question at hand is to increase JSPWiki’s publicity - how can we do
>>>> that? Unfortunately Open Source also consists of lot of advertising
>>>> otherwise no user will ever use it :-)
>>> Really ramping up activity on social networks would be a good idea,
>>> Facebook and Twitter specifically. There is a Facebook page with a
>>> whopping four members, and activity on there is all but dead. Happy to
>>> make a time commitment here to start posting fresh content.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave

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