> we do not plan to make cross-cluster calls into the services

If you are making local calls, I think there is no point in using Ignite
services.
Can you describe the use case - what are you trying to achieve?

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:55 PM Arthur Naseef <artnas...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hello - I'm getting started with Ignite and looking seriously at using it
> for a specific use-case.
>
> Working on a Proof-Of-Concept (POC), I am finding a question related to
> performance, and wondering if the solution, using Ignite Services, is a
> good fit for the use-case.
>
> In my testing, I am getting the following timings:
>
>    - Startup of 20,000 ignite services takes 30 seconds
>    - Startup of 50,000 ignite services takes 250 seconds
>    - The 2.5x increase from 20,000 to 50,000 yielded > 8x cost in startup
>    time (appears to be exponential growth)
>
> Watching the JVM during this time, I see the following:
>
>    - Heap usage is not significant (do not see signs of GC)
>    - CPU usage is only slightly increased - on the order of 20% total
>    (system has 12 cores/24 threads)
>    - Network utilization is reasonable
>    - Futex system call (measured with "strace -r") appears to be taking
>    the most time by far.
>
> The use-case involves the following:
>
>    - Startup of up-to hundreds-of-thousands of services at cluster spin-up
>    - Frequent, small adjustments to the services running over time
>    - Need to rebalance when a new node joins the cluster, or an old one
>    leaves the cluster
>    - Once the services are deployed, we do not plan to make cross-cluster
>    calls into the services (i.e. we do *not* plan to use ignite's
>    services().serviceProxy() on these)
>    - Jobs don't look like a fit because these (1) are "long-running"
>    (actually periodically scheduled tasks) and (2) they need to redistribute
>    even after they start running
>
> This is starting to get long.  I have more details to share.  Here is the
> repo with the code being used to test, and a link to a wiki page with some
> of the details:
>
> https://github.com/opennms-forge/distributed-scheduling-poc/
>
>
> https://github.com/opennms-forge/distributed-scheduling-poc/wiki/Ignite-Startup-Performance
>
>
> Questions I have in mind:
>
>    - Are services a good fit here?  We expect to reach upwards of 500,000
>    services in a cluster with multiple nodes.
>    - Any thoughts on tracking down the bottleneck and alleviating it?  (I
>    have started taking timing measurements in the Ignite code)
>
> Stopping here - please ask questions and I'll gladly fill in details.  Any
> tips are welcome, including ideas for tracking down just where the
> bottleneck exists.
>
> Art
>
>

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