For theta joins, you'll have to convert the query to an equi-join, and then 
filter for non-equality in the WHERE clause.  Depending upon the size of each 
table, you might consider looking at map-side joins, which will allow for doing 
non-equality filters during a join before it's passed to the reducers.

Matt Tucker

From: mahsa mofidpoor [mailto:mofidp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:02 PM
To: user@hive.apache.org
Subject: Re: non-equality joins


Hi Keith,

Do you know exactly how an algorithm should be in order to fit in the MapReduce 
framework? Could you refer me to some references?

Thanks and Regards,
Mahsa



On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Keith Wiley 
<kwi...@keithwiley.com<mailto:kwi...@keithwiley.com>> wrote:
https://cwiki.apache.org/Hive/languagemanual-joins.html

"Hive does not support join conditions that are not equality conditions as it 
is very difficult to express such conditions as a map/reduce job."

I admit, that isn't a very detailed answer, but it gives some indication of the 
reason for the discrepancy between Hive and other databases.  Hive 
fundamentally operates on Hadoop, namely on MapReduce (we all know this, I'm 
just reiterating the train of thought).  The problem is that certain algorithms 
are exceedingly difficult to wedge into the MapReduce framework.

That is as detailed as my personal insight can get.  I've done a lot of 
MapReduce programming in Hadoop but I'm not a database expert and I don't 
really understand the steps involved in various kinds of table-joins, so I 
don't understand the particular ways in which certain database operations do or 
do not fit into MapReduce...but presumably nonequality joins (whatever those 
are :-D ) are particularly difficult to MapReduceify.

Cheers!

On Mar 13, 2012, at 09:17 , mahsa mofidpoor wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there a reason behind not implementing non-equality joins in Hive? In 
> other words, is there any usage for theta-join, if implemented?
>
> Thank you in advance for your response,
> Mahsa

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