It does sound like what I'd want (that's why I was trying to use it :) ), but it isn't working as described. Maybe it is a bug?
The behavior I'm seeing is that the delete markers are removed on major compaction, regardless of having a hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes set in hbase-site.xml: https://gist.github.com/housejester/2b8fbba0d05c6abbe784 I think I've found the issue now. You mentioned the setting could be applied per CF...so I tested that way, and it works as expected. My hbase-site.xml had: <property> <name>hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes</name> <name>600000</name> </property> But that doesn't seem to be applied (even with restarts, etc). Setting hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes directly on the column family does work though: https://gist.github.com/housejester/a81274bf74a8666fba32 Not sure why it isn't picking up from my hbase-site.xml, but I'll just configure it on the CFs. This is on hbase-0.98.6.1-hadoop2 and hbase-0.96.0-hadoop2 running in local mode. Thanks Lars, James On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM, lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org> wrote: > You can use the hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes config option. > You can set it globally or per Column Family. > > This is the description in hbase-default.xml: > <property> > <name>hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes</name> > <value>0</value> > <description>The amount of time to delay purging of delete markers > with future timestamps. If > unset, or set to 0, all delete markers, including those with future > timestamps, are purged > during the next major compaction. Otherwise, a delete marker is kept > until the major compaction > which occurs after the marker's timestamp plus the value of this > setting, in milliseconds. > </description> > </property> > > That seems to be exactly what you want. > > -- Lars > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Estes <james.es...@gmail.com> > To: user@hbase.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:39 AM > Subject: Configuring tombstone purge independent of deleted cell purge > > Could tombstone purges be independent of purging deleted cells and > KEEP_DELETED_CELLS setting? In my use case, I do not want to keep deleted > cells, but I do need to keep the tombstones around. Without the tombstones, > I'm not able to do incremental backups (custom, we do timerange raw scans > ourselves for this). > > As a rough example, if I have the following timeline for the same row key > (where t# is time): > t0 - full backup (using a time range up to t0) > t1 - PUT v1 > t2 - incremental backup #1 (time range t0 up to t2) > t3 - DELETE > t4 - flush and major compaction happens > t5 - incremental backup #2 (time range t2 up to t5) > t6 - full system crash > t7 - data restored from full backup + incrementals #1 and #2 > > When the restore completes, the row will have been un-deleted. This is > because the incremental backup in #2 will not have the tombstone, since it > gets compacted out. > > So in our case, I do NOT want to keep deleted cells (because I do not want > the cells to show up in time range scans users may do), but I DO want to > keep the tombstones for a configurable amount of time (much larger than our > planned incremental backup schedule) so they are captured during backup. > This would allow for the custom incremental backups to be independent of > major compactions. Without it, the backup schedule would have to manually > handle compactions and would always have to do a FULL Backup after a major > compaction (otherwise there can be loss because when any major compaction > happens, any tombstone that came in after the last incremental will be > lost). > > It seems like there could be another setting for when to purge tombstones. > Currently, there is hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes for when to purge > deleted cells, but ONLY if KEEP_DELETED_CELLS is configured (which makes > sense). I'd like to propose a hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.tombstones that > could default to the same value as hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes, but > would take effect regardless of the KEEP_DELETED_CELLS setting. It should > have a constraint so that hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.deletes < > hbase.hstore.time.to.purge.tombstones (b/c we don't want tombstones > disappearing before the deleted cells). > > Does this seem reasonable? Is there another approach I might take? > > Thanks, > >