Hi,

That is an interesting question and I noticed the same: stopped instances 
(backed by EBS) get a new IP at start. Only restarts has the IP survive. 

Not sure how to handle this but add some extra scripts to patch the configs on 
start. 

Messy. 

Anyone with experience willing to chime in?

Lars

On Mar 11, 2011, at 0:46, Peter Haidinyak <phaidin...@local.com> wrote:

> I just took a day course on the Amazon Cloud and he had mentioned the every 
> time you spin up a VM it gets a different IP and Host name. If this is true 
> how do you keep the configuration files current every time you add a new VM 
> or power on an existing Cluster?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Pete
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Purtell [mailto:apurt...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:31 PM
> To: user@hbase.apache.org
> Subject: Re: cost estimation
> 
> Everything Gary said.
> 
> Something interesting Netflix said this week at the ccevent conference was 
> they were able to depreciate Reserved Instance payments as a capital 
> expenditure.
> 
> Also, c1.xlarge is one of only three instance types that seem to get its own 
> physical server for each instance (others are m2.4xlarge and cc1.xlarge 
> iirc). 
> 
>> From: Gary Helmling <ghelml...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: cost estimation
>> To: user@hbase.apache.org
>> Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 9:37 AM
>> Hi Weishung,
>> 
>> See the EC2 instance pricing details here:
>> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing
>> 
>> <http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing>and
>> try to calculate it out vs. price
>> quotes for hardware.
>> 
>> You'll need to run at _least_ m1.large or c1.xlarge instances for HBase.
>> There was a recent discussion thread covering EC2 performance.  You can
>> look it up at search-hadoop.com.
>> 
>> If you don't need the cluster running 24x7, maybe you can make the EC2
>> pricing work out.  Just be aware that you'll be taking a hit in raw IO
>> performance per node, so you may need to balance that out with more nodes
>> than you would need with using your own hardware.  If you need to persist
>> data between cluster restarts, you'll also need either EBS or S3 storage, so
>> be sure to factor that in.  Also factor in bandwidth costs if you need to
>> transfer a lot of data in/out of AWS.
>> 
>> My own impression is that EC2 is great and very cost effective for short
>> lived, on-demand computing resources.  We use it a great deal for functional
>> testing.  For 24x7 services, it seems like you pay a premium long term over
>> owning your own hardware, with advantage of no large up-front cost for
>> acquisition and access to easy elasticity to expand to meet demand, but with
>> a cost of reduced performance per node due to virtualization.
>> 
>> Best advice I can give is do some benchmarking to see how many nodes you
>> need to satisfy your processing requirements in EC2 vs on raw hardware and
>> try to comparatively price it out.
>> 
>> --gh
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Weishung Chung <weish...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am trying to estimate the cost of hosting own HBase
>> cluster vs using EC2.
>>> Could anyone give me some guidance?
>>> Cluster size ~ 6 to 8 nodes
>>> Usage ~ at least 12 hours/day with lot of read/write
>> operations. (I know I
>>> need to have more concrete usage number here)
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much :)
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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