Hi Brock,

Our heap size is 2GB.

Thanks for the advice on data directories. Could you please let me know the 
heuristic for that?   (e.g. 1 data directory per N-sized channel where N is...)

Thanks also for suggesting back up checkpoints - are these something that 
increases the integrity of Flume's execution in an automatic fashion, or does 
it aid in some form of manual recovery?

Re: FLUME-2155, I've scanned through it, and will read it in more detail. I'm 
not sure about the unit of measurement for some of the metrics (milliseconds?), 
but is there any guidance as to at which order of magnitude (10^4, 10^6 or 10^8 
?) the channel size causes the replay issue to become apparent?

Thank you,
Umesh

________________________________
From: Brock Noland [br...@cloudera.com]
Sent: 30 January 2014 13:27
To: user@flume.apache.org
Subject: RE: checkpoint lifecycle


How large is your heap?

You will likely want two data directories per disk. Also with a channel that 
large I strongly recommend using back up checkpoints.

Additionally https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLUME-2155 will be very 
useful to you as well.

On Jan 30, 2014 4:21 AM, "Umesh Telang" 
<umesh.tel...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:umesh.tel...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Hi Hari,

The capacity of the channel is 150,000,000. The other properties of the file 
channel are as below:
a1.channels.s3-file-channel.type = file
a1.channels.s3-file-channel.checkpointDir = 
/mnt/flume-file-channels/s3-file-channel/checkpoint
a1.channels.s3-file-channel.dataDirs = 
/mnt/flume-file-channels/s3-file-channel/data
a1.channels.s3-file-channel.transactionCapacity = 20000
a1.channels.s3-file-channel.capacity = 150000000

We've been experimenting with the configuration. We haven't specifically 
noticed an increase in the checkpoint size. It's just that as the size we've 
observed is in the order of gigabytes, we wanted to understand how the 
checkpoint size would vary, if at all.

Based on what you've said, it looks like the checkpoint size is a direct 
function of the channel capacity. So, for a given channel capacity... as long 
as there is enough disk space initially provisioned, that should be sufficient 
for that flume agent.

Thanks again for clarifying!

Umesh


________________________________
From: Hari Shreedharan 
[hshreedha...@cloudera.com<mailto:hshreedha...@cloudera.com>]
Sent: 29 January 2014 18:55
To: user@flume.apache.org<mailto:user@flume.apache.org>
Subject: Re: checkpoint lifecycle

What is the capacity of your channel? I would assume that the checkpoint size 
will remain the same throughout.


Thanks,
Hari


On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Umesh Telang wrote:

Thanks for the quick response, Hari!

We are using version 1.4.0 of Flume.

The contents and sizes of the checkpoint directory are as below:
$ ls -lh
total 1.2G
-rw-r--r-- 1 flume flume 1.2G Jan 29 17:34 checkpoint
-rw-r--r-- 1 flume flume   25 Jan 29 17:34 checkpoint.meta
-rw-r--r-- 1 flume flume    0 Jan 28 07:56 in_use.lock
-rw-r--r-- 1 flume flume   32 Jan 29 17:34 inflightputs
-rw-r--r-- 1 flume flume   32 Jan 29 17:34 inflighttakes

Thanks,
Umesh


________________________________
From: Hari Shreedharan 
[hshreedha...@cloudera.com<mailto:hshreedha...@cloudera.com>]
Sent: 29 January 2014 17:22
To: user@flume.apache.org<mailto:user@flume.apache.org>
Subject: Re: checkpoint lifecycle

The checkpoint file itself should be fixed size though other files in that 
directory may vary in size. What version of flume are you using? Newer versions 
should have more files in that directory.

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, Umesh Telang 
<umesh.tel...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:umesh.tel...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Hello,

Under a file channels checkpoint directory, I see the following files:
checkpoint
checkpoint.meta

I wanted to know whether the size of the checkpoint file should reach a steady 
state if the amount and rate of input to the file chain remains the same.

My understanding is that the checkpoint file is associate with the write ahead 
log. Is this something that continues to grow indefinitely?

Or is there some lifecycle management that cleans out very old entries from the 
write ahead log?

If not, is there some strategy that we should employ to manage the size of the 
checkpoint file (in our case, it's currently over 1GB after 2 days' operation).

Thanks for any advice on this.

Kind regards,
Umesh




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