… just for my understanding

From the announcements I only got that scala remains only a dependency in the 
JARs that relate to the Scala API.
I never read about plans to drop the Scala API altogether … is that the case??
That would be very unfortunate …

What is the state of the affair?

Best regards

Thias



From: Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org>
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 2:38 PM
To: Robert Metzger <metrob...@gmail.com>
Cc: Salva Alcántara <salcantara...@gmail.com>; user <user@flink.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Practical guidance with Scala and Flink >= 1.15

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Hi Salva,

Like Robert said, I don't expect that we will be able to drop support for Scala 
2.12 anytime soon. I do think that we should have a discussion in the Flink 
community about providing Scala APIs. My opinion is that we are probably better 
off to deprecate the current Scala APIs (keeping it internal as we still have a 
big piece of Scala internally) and only offer Java APIs. The Flink community 
lacks real Scala maintainers. I think Seth's blog is pretty spot-on on this too 
[1].

Best regards,

Martijn Visser
https://twitter.com/MartijnVisser82
https://github.com/MartijnVisser

[1] https://flink.apache.org/2022/02/22/scala-free.html

On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 12:24, Robert Metzger 
<metrob...@gmail.com<mailto:metrob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Salva,
my somewhat wild guess (because I'm not very involved with the Scala 
development on Flink): I would stick with option 1 for now. It should be easier 
now for the Flink community to support Scala versions past 2.12 (because we 
don't need to worry about scala 2.12+ support for Flink's internal dependencies 
such as akka).
An argument against supporting newer Scala versions is that I'm not aware of 
anybody currently working on Flink with Scala in general.

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 6:37 PM Salva Alcántara 
<salcantara...@gmail.com<mailto:salcantara...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've always used Scala in the context of Flink. Now that Flink 1.15 has become 
Scala-free, I wonder what is the best (most practical) route for me moving 
forward. These are my options:

1. Keep using Scala 2.12 for the years to come (and upgrade to newer versions 
when the community has come up with something). How long is Flink expected to 
support Scala 2.12?

2. Upgrade to Scala 2.13 or Scala 3 and use the Java API directly (without any 
Scala-specific wrapper/API). How problematic will that be, especially regarding 
type information & scala-specific serializers? I hate those "returns" (type 
hints) in the Java API...

3. Switch to Java, at least for the time being...

To be clear, I have a strong preference for Scala over Java, but I'm trying to 
look at the "grand scheme of things" here, and be pragmatic. I guess I'm not 
alone here, and that many people are indeed evaluating the same pros & cons. 
Any feedback will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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