Thanks for the update.

> Could the backpressure timeout and heartbeat timeout be because of Heap
Usage close to Max configured?

Could be. This is one of the things I had in mind under overloaded in:

> might be related to one another via some different deeper problem (broken
network environment, something being overloaded)

You can easily diagnose it. Just attach a memory profiler or check gc logs,
just as you would normally do when debugging a non-Flink standalone Java
application.

It can also be a symptom of a failing network environment. I would first
check for GC pauses/stops/gaps in the logs that would indicate stalled JVM
caused those RPC timeouts. If that doesn't bring you closer to a solution I
would then check for the network environment in your cluster/cloud. Both of
those might be a reason behind your Kafka issues. Hard to tell. Definitely
you shouldn't have heartbeat timeouts in your cluster, so something IS
wrong with your setup.

Best,
Piotrek

czw., 15 lip 2021 o 17:17 Rahul Patwari <rahulpatwari8...@gmail.com>
napisał(a):

> Thanks for the feedback Piotrek.
>
> We have observed the issue again today. As we are using Flink 1.11.1, I
> tried to check the backpressure of Kafka source tasks from the
> Jobmanager UI.
> The backpressure request was canceled due to Timeout and "No Data" was
> displayed in UI. Here are the respective logs:
>
> java.util.concurrent.TimeoutException: Invocation of public abstract
> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture
> org.apache.flink.runtime.taskexecutor.TaskExecutorGateway.requestTaskBackPressure(org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionAttemptID,int,org.apache.flink.api.common.time.Time)
> timed out.
> at
> org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmaster.RpcTaskManagerGateway.requestTaskBackPressure(RpcTaskManagerGateway.java:67)
> .............................
> Caused by: akka.pattern.AskTimeoutException: Ask timed out on
> [Actor[akka.tcp://flink@xX.X.X.X:X/user/rpc/taskmanager_0#-1457664622]]
> after [15000 ms]. Message of type
> [org.apache.flink.runtime.rpc.messages.RemoteRpcInvocation]. A typical
> reason for `AskTimeoutException` is that the recipient actor didn't send a
> reply.
> at
> akka.pattern.PromiseActorRef$.$anonfun$defaultOnTimeout$1(AskSupport.scala:635)
> ~[flink-dist_2.12-1.11.1.jar:1.11.1]
> .............................
>
> During this time, the heartbeat of one of the Taskmanager to the
> Jobmanager timed out. Here are the respective logs:
>
> java.util.concurrent.TimeoutException: Heartbeat of TaskManager with id
> bead57c15b447eac08531693ec91edc4 timed out. at
> org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmaster.JobMaster$TaskManagerHeartbeatListener.notifyHeartbeatTimeout(JobMaster.java:1193)
> ..................
>
> Because of heartbeat timeout, there was an internal restart of Flink and
> the Kafka consumption rate recovered after the restart.
>
> Could the backpressure timeout and heartbeat timeout be because of Heap
> Usage close to Max configured?
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:29 PM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rahul,
>>
>> I would highly doubt that you are hitting the network bottleneck case. It
>> would require either a broken environment/network or throughputs in orders
>> of GB/second. More likely you are seeing empty input pool and you haven't
>> checked the documentation [1]:
>>
>> > inPoolUsage - An estimate of the input buffers usage. (ignores
>> LocalInputChannels)
>>
>> If local channels are backpressured, inPoolUsage will be 0. You can check
>> downstream task's inputQueueLength or isBackPressured metrics. Besides
>> that, I would highly recommend upgrading to Flink 1.13.x if you are
>> investigating backpressure problems as described in the blog post.
>>
>> > 1. Can the backpressure Cause "DisconnectException", "Error Sending
>> Fetch Request to node ..." and other Kafka Consumer logs mentioned above?
>>
>> No, I don't think it's possible. Those two might be related to one
>> another via some different deeper problem (broken network environment,
>> something being overloaded), but I don't see a way how one could cause the
>> other.
>>
>> Piotrek
>>
>> [1]
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/ops/metrics/#default-shuffle-service
>>
>> śr., 14 lip 2021 o 14:18 Rahul Patwari <rahulpatwari8...@gmail.com>
>> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Thanks, Piotrek.
>>>
>>> We have two Kafka sources. We are facing this issue for both of them.
>>> The downstream tasks with the sources form two independent directed acyclic
>>> graphs, running within the same Streaming Job.
>>>
>>> For Example:
>>> source1 -> task1 -> sink1
>>> source2 -> task2 -> sink2
>>>
>>> There is backpressure in both sources. Verified using the
>>> "isBackPressured" metric.
>>> For one of the sources, "outPoolUsage" is high whereas "inPoolUsage" of
>>> immediate downstream task is ~ 0. I think we are observing the rare case
>>> mentioned at the end in [1].
>>>
>>> I have a couple of questions:
>>>
>>>    1. Can the backpressure Cause "DisconnectException", "Error Sending
>>>    Fetch Request to node ..." and other Kafka Consumer logs mentioned above?
>>>    2. What could be the next steps in resolving the backpressure issue
>>>    - the rare case
>>>
>>> [1] https://flink.apache.org/2021/07/07/backpressure.html
>>>
>>> When the stream is running as expected, these are the thread dump of
>>> Kafka Source tasks. Comparing the thread dumps - The "Kafka Fetcher"
>>> thread, which polls records is blocked by "Legacy Source" Thread(main
>>> Thread) - probably because of backpressure.
>>>
>>>   {
>>> "threadName": "Kafka Fetcher for Source: SourceEventSignature (8/12)",
>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Kafka Fetcher for Source:
>>> SourceEventSignature (8/12)\" Id=521 RUNNABLE\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollArrayWrapper.epollWait(Native Method)\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollArrayWrapper.poll(EPollArrayWrapper.java:269)\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollSelectorImpl.doSelect(EPollSelectorImpl.java:93)\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:86)\n\t-  locked
>>> sun.nio.ch.Util$3@1aaa5678\n\t-  locked
>>> java.util.Collections$UnmodifiableSet@6c629341\n\t-  locked
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollSelectorImpl@3e783067\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:97)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.kafka.common.network.Selector.select(Selector.java:794)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.kafka.common.network.Selector.poll(Selector.java:467)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.kafka.clients.NetworkClient.poll(NetworkClient.java:547)\n\t...\n\n\tNumber
>>> of locked synchronizers = 1\n\t-
>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.ReentrantLock$FairSync@462572c9\n\n"
>>> }, {
>>> "threadName": "Kafka Fetcher for Source: SourceEventTransition (4/12)",
>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Kafka Fetcher for Source:
>>> SourceEventTransition (4/12)\" Id=520 RUNNABLE\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollArrayWrapper.epollWait(Native Method)\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollArrayWrapper.poll(EPollArrayWrapper.java:269)\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollSelectorImpl.doSelect(EPollSelectorImpl.java:93)\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:86)\n\t-  locked
>>> sun.nio.ch.Util$3@ef4e5e3\n\t-  locked
>>> java.util.Collections$UnmodifiableSet@767487e7\n\t-  locked
>>> sun.nio.ch.EPollSelectorImpl@9707a46\n\tat
>>> sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:97)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.kafka.common.network.Selector.select(Selector.java:794)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.kafka.common.network.Selector.poll(Selector.java:467)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.kafka.clients.NetworkClient.poll(NetworkClient.java:547)\n\t...\n\n\tNumber
>>> of locked synchronizers = 1\n\t-
>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.ReentrantLock$FairSync@642ee29b\n\n"
>>> }, {
>>> "threadName": "Legacy Source Thread - Source: SourceEventSignature
>>> (8/12)",
>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Legacy Source Thread - Source:
>>> SourceEventSignature (8/12)\" Id=515 WAITING on 
>>> java.lang.Object@4d5cc800\n\tat
>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)\n\t-  waiting on
>>> java.lang.Object@4d5cc800\n\tat
>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:502)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.Handover.pollNext(Handover.java:74)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.KafkaFetcher.runFetchLoop(KafkaFetcher.java:133)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.FlinkKafkaConsumerBase.run(FlinkKafkaConsumerBase.java:755)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.StreamSource.run(StreamSource.java:100)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.StreamSource.run(StreamSource.java:63)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.SourceStreamTask$LegacySourceFunctionThread.run(SourceStreamTask.java:201)\n\n"
>>> }, {
>>> "threadName": "Legacy Source Thread - Source: SourceEventTransition
>>> (4/12)",
>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Legacy Source Thread - Source:
>>> SourceEventTransition (4/12)\" Id=514 WAITING on 
>>> java.lang.Object@1fc525f3\n\tat
>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)\n\t-  waiting on
>>> java.lang.Object@1fc525f3\n\tat
>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:502)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.Handover.pollNext(Handover.java:74)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.KafkaFetcher.runFetchLoop(KafkaFetcher.java:133)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.FlinkKafkaConsumerBase.run(FlinkKafkaConsumerBase.java:755)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.StreamSource.run(StreamSource.java:100)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.StreamSource.run(StreamSource.java:63)\n\tat
>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.SourceStreamTask$LegacySourceFunctionThread.run(SourceStreamTask.java:201)\n\n"
>>> }
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 2:39 PM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Waiting for memory from LocalBufferPool is a perfectly normal symptom
>>>> of a backpressure [1][2].
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Piotrek
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://flink.apache.org/2021/07/07/backpressure.html
>>>> [2] https://www.ververica.com/blog/how-flink-handles-backpressure
>>>>
>>>> śr., 14 lip 2021 o 06:05 Rahul Patwari <rahulpatwari8...@gmail.com>
>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, David, Piotr for your reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> I managed to capture the Thread dump from Jobmanaager UI for few task
>>>>> managers.
>>>>> Here is the thread dump for Kafka Source tasks in one task manager. I
>>>>> could see the same stack trace in other task managers as well. It seems
>>>>> like Kafka Source tasks are waiting on Memory. Any Pointers?
>>>>>
>>>>>   {
>>>>> "threadName": "Kafka Fetcher for Source: SourceEventTransition (6/12)",
>>>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Kafka Fetcher for Source:
>>>>> SourceEventTransition (6/12)\" Id=581 WAITING on 
>>>>> java.lang.Object@444c0edc\n\tat
>>>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)\n\t-  waiting on
>>>>> java.lang.Object@444c0edc\n\tat
>>>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:502)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.Handover.produce(Handover.java:117)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.KafkaConsumerThread.run(KafkaConsumerThread.java:261)\n\n"
>>>>> }, {
>>>>> "threadName": "Kafka Fetcher for Source: SourceEventSignature (7/12)",
>>>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Kafka Fetcher for Source:
>>>>> SourceEventSignature (7/12)\" Id=580 WAITING on 
>>>>> java.lang.Object@7d3843a9\n\tat
>>>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)\n\t-  waiting on
>>>>> java.lang.Object@7d3843a9\n\tat
>>>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:502)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.Handover.produce(Handover.java:117)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internal.KafkaConsumerThread.run(KafkaConsumerThread.java:261)\n\n"
>>>>> }, {
>>>>> "threadName": "Legacy Source Thread - Source: SourceEventSignature
>>>>> (7/12)",
>>>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Legacy Source Thread - Source:
>>>>> SourceEventSignature (7/12)\" Id=408 WAITING on
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$Signaller@4c613ed7\n\tat
>>>>> sun.misc.Unsafe.park(Native Method)\n\t-  waiting on
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$Signaller@4c613ed7\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.LockSupport.park(LockSupport.java:175)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$Signaller.block(CompletableFuture.java:1707)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.managedBlock(ForkJoinPool.java:3323)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture.waitingGet(CompletableFuture.java:1742)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture.get(CompletableFuture.java:1908)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.buffer.LocalBufferPool.requestMemorySegmentBlocking(LocalBufferPool.java:293)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.buffer.LocalBufferPool.requestBufferBuilderBlocking(LocalBufferPool.java:266)\n\t...\n\n"
>>>>> }, {
>>>>> "threadName": "Legacy Source Thread - Source: SourceEventTransition
>>>>> (6/12)",
>>>>> "stringifiedThreadInfo": "\"Legacy Source Thread - Source:
>>>>> SourceEventTransition (6/12)\" Id=409 WAITING on
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$Signaller@5765d0d4\n\tat
>>>>> sun.misc.Unsafe.park(Native Method)\n\t-  waiting on
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$Signaller@5765d0d4\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.LockSupport.park(LockSupport.java:175)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$Signaller.block(CompletableFuture.java:1707)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.managedBlock(ForkJoinPool.java:3323)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture.waitingGet(CompletableFuture.java:1742)\n\tat
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture.get(CompletableFuture.java:1908)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.buffer.LocalBufferPool.requestMemorySegmentBlocking(LocalBufferPool.java:293)\n\tat
>>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.buffer.LocalBufferPool.requestBufferBuilderBlocking(LocalBufferPool.java:266)\n\t...\n\n"
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:07 PM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure, maybe someone will be able to help you, but it sounds
>>>>>> like it would be better for you to:
>>>>>> - google search something like "Kafka Error sending fetch request
>>>>>> TimeoutException" (I see there are quite a lot of results, some of them
>>>>>> might be related)
>>>>>> - ask this question on the Kafka mailing list
>>>>>> - ask this question on stackoverflow as a Kafka question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short, FlinkKafkaConsumer is a very thin wrapper around the
>>>>>> KafkaConsumer class, so the thing you are observing has most likely very
>>>>>> little to do with the Flink itself. In other words, if you are observing
>>>>>> such a problem you most likely would be possible to reproduce it without
>>>>>> Flink.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Piotrek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pt., 9 lip 2021 o 12:30 Rahul Patwari <rahulpatwari8...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a Flink 1.11.1 Version streaming pipeline in production
>>>>>>> which reads from Kafka.
>>>>>>> Kafka Server version is 2.5.0 - confluent 5.5.0
>>>>>>> Kafka Client Version is 2.4.1 - 
>>>>>>> {"component":"org.apache.kafka.common.utils.AppInfoParser$AppInfo","message":"Kafka
>>>>>>> version: 2.4.1","method":"<init>"}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Occasionally(every 6 to 12 hours), we have observed that the Kafka
>>>>>>> consumption rate went down(NOT 0) and the following logs were observed:
>>>>>>> Generally, the consumption rate across all consumers is 4k records/sec.
>>>>>>> When this issue occurred, the consumption rate dropped to < 50 
>>>>>>> records/sec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> org.apache.kafka.common.errors.DisconnectException: null
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {"time":"2021-07-07T22:13:37,385","severity":"INFO","component":"org.apache.kafka.clients.FetchSessionHandler","message":"[Consumer
>>>>>>> clientId=consumer-MFTDataProcessorEventSignatureConsumerGroupV1R1-3,
>>>>>>> groupId=MFTDataProcessorEventSignatureConsumerGroupV1R1] Error sending
>>>>>>> fetch request (sessionId=405798138, epoch=5808) to node 8:
>>>>>>> {}.","method":"handleError"}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> org.apache.kafka.common.errors.TimeoutException: Failed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {"time":"2021-07-07T22:26:41,379","severity":"INFO","component":"org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.internals.AbstractCoordinator","message":"[Consumer
>>>>>>> clientId=consumer-MFTDataProcessorEventSignatureConsumerGroupV1R1-3,
>>>>>>> groupId=MFTDataProcessorEventSignatureConsumerGroupV1R1] Group 
>>>>>>> coordinator
>>>>>>> 100.98.40.16:9092 (id: 2147483623 rack: null) is unavailable or
>>>>>>> invalid, will attempt rediscovery","method":"markCoordinatorUnknown"}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {"time":"2021-07-07T22:27:10,465","severity":"INFO","component":"org.apache.kafka.clients.consumer.internals.AbstractCoordinator$FindCoordinatorResponseHandler","message":"[Consumer
>>>>>>> clientId=consumer-MFTDataProcessorEventSignatureConsumerGroupV1R1-3,
>>>>>>> groupId=MFTDataProcessorEventSignatureConsumerGroupV1R1] Discovered 
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>> coordinator 100.98.40.16:9092 (id: 2147483623 rack:
>>>>>>> null)","method":"onSuccess"}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The consumers retried for more than an hour but the above logs are
>>>>>>> observed again.
>>>>>>> The consumers started pulling data after a manual restart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No WARN or ERROR logs were observed in Kafka or Zookeeper during
>>>>>>> this period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our observation from this incident is that Kafka Consumer retries
>>>>>>> could not resolve the issue but a manual restart (or) Flink internal
>>>>>>> restart(Failure rate restart policy) does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone faced this issue before? Any pointers are appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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