Sorry for the delayed response but I'm glad to hear you have solved the
problem.

Piotrek



czw., 24 cze 2021 o 10:55 Felipe Gutierrez <felipe.o.gutier...@gmail.com>
napisał(a):

> So, just an update.
>
> When I used this code (My stateful watermark) on the original application
> it seems that I can recover the latest watermark and further process the
> join with stuck events on it.
> I don't even have to create MyCoProcessFunction to implement a low-level
> join. The available .coGroup(MyCoGroupFunction) works as a charm.
>
> Thank you again for the clarifications!
> Felipe
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 5:18 PM Felipe Gutierrez <
> felipe.o.gutier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Piotr,
>>
>> Could you please help me to ensure that I am implementing it in the
>> correct way?
>>
>> I created the WatermarkFunction [1] based on the FilterFunction from
>> Flink and the WatermarkStreamOperator [2] and I am doing unit test [3].
>> Then there are things that I am not sure how to do.
>>
>> How to make the ListState singleton on all parallel operators?
>>
>> When my job restarts I don't even have to call "processWatermark(new
>> Watermark(maxWatermark));" on the end of the "initializeState()". I can see
>> that the job process the previous watermarks before it fails. Is it because
>> the source is one that I created at the end of the unit test "MySource"? Or
>> is it because I don't have a join on the stream pipeline? I have the output
>> of my unit test below at this message in case you are not able to runt the
>> test.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/felipegutierrez/explore-flink/blob/master/docker/ops-playground-image/java/explore-flink/src/main/java/org/sense/flink/examples/stream/operator/watermark/WatermarkFunction.java
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/felipegutierrez/explore-flink/blob/master/docker/ops-playground-image/java/explore-flink/src/main/java/org/sense/flink/examples/stream/operator/watermark/WatermarkStreamOperator.java
>> [3]
>> https://github.com/felipegutierrez/explore-flink/blob/master/docker/ops-playground-image/java/explore-flink/src/test/java/org/sense/flink/examples/stream/operator/watermark/WatermarkStreamOperatorTest.java#L113
>>
>> $ cd explore-flink/docker/ops-playground-image/java/explore-flink/
>> $ mvn -Dtest=WatermarkStreamOperatorTest#testRestartWithLatestWatermark
>> test
>>
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> initializeState... 0
>> initializeState... 0
>> initializeState... 0
>> initializeState... 0
>> maxWatermark: 0
>> maxWatermark: 0
>> maxWatermark: 0
>> maxWatermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> Attempts restart: 0
>> processing watermark: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> Attempts restart: 0
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> Attempts restart: 0
>> processing watermark: 3
>> processing watermark: 3
>> processing watermark: 3
>> processing watermark: 3
>> Attempts restart: 0
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> This exception will trigger until the reference time [2021-06-21
>> 16:57:19.531] reaches the trigger time [2021-06-21 16:57:21.672] // HERE
>> THE JOB IS RESTARTING
>> initializeState... 1
>> initializeState... 1
>> initializeState... 1
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> WatermarkStreamOperator.initializeState
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 1
>> watermarkList recovered: 2
>> initializeState... 1
>> maxWatermark: 2 // HERE IS THE LATEST WATERMARK
>> processing watermark: 2 // I PROCESS IT HERE
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 1
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 0
>> watermarkList recovered: 1
>> watermarkList recovered: 1
>> watermarkList recovered: 2
>> watermarkList recovered: 2
>> watermarkList recovered: 2
>> maxWatermark: 2
>> maxWatermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> maxWatermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 0 // IS IS ALSO PROCESSING THE OTHER WATERMARKS.
>> WHY?
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> processing watermark: 0
>> Attempts restart: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> processing watermark: 1
>> Attempts restart: 1
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> processing watermark: 2
>> Attempts restart: 1
>> processing watermark: 3
>> processing watermark: 3
>> processing watermark: 3
>> processing watermark: 3
>> Attempts restart: 1
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> processing watermark: 9223372036854775807
>> This is a poison but we do NOT throw an exception because the reference
>> time passed :) [2021-06-21 16:57:22.849] >= [2021-06-21 16:57:21.672]
>> Attempts restart: 1
>> Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 6.836 sec
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 2:46 PM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad I could help, I hope it will solve your problem :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Piotrek
>>>
>>> pt., 18 cze 2021 o 14:38 Felipe Gutierrez <felipe.o.gutier...@gmail.com>
>>> napisał(a):
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:41 PM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind that this is a quite low level approach to this problem.
>>>>> It would be much better to make sure that after recovery watermarks are
>>>>> still being emitted.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes. Indeed it looks like a very low level. I did a small test to emit
>>>> one watermark for the stream that was recovered and then it can process
>>>> the join. It has the same behavior on using a CoGroupFunction nad a
>>>> CoProcessFunction. So in the end I don't need to implement
>>>> MyCoProcessFunction with checkpoint. I just need to emit a new watermark
>>>> after the job recovers.
>>>>
>>>> In my case, I am using Kafka source. so, if I make Kafka
>>>> keeping emitting watermarks I solve the problem. Otherwise, I have to
>>>> implement this custom operator.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your answer!
>>>> Felipe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are using a built-in source, it's probably easier to do it in a
>>>>> custom operator. I would try to implement a custom one based on
>>>>> AbstractStreamOperator. Your class would also need to implement the
>>>>> OneInputStreamOperator interface. `processElement` you could implement as
>>>>> an identity function (just pass down the stream element unchanged). In
>>>>> `processWatermark` you would need to store the latest watermark on the
>>>>> `ListState<Long>` field (you can declare it inside
>>>>> `AbstractStreamOperator#initializeState` via `context.getListState(new
>>>>> ListStateDescriptor<>("your-field-name", Long.class));`). During normal
>>>>> processing (`processWatermark`) make sure it's a singleton list. During
>>>>> recovery (`AbstractStreamOpeartor#initializeState()`) without rescaling,
>>>>> you would just access this state field and re-emit the only element on 
>>>>> that
>>>>> list. However during recovery, depending if you are scaling up (a) or down
>>>>> (b), you could have a case where you sometimes have either (a) empty list
>>>>> (in that case you can not emit anything), or (b) many elements on the list
>>>>> (in that case you would need to calculate a minimum of all elements).
>>>>>
>>>>> As operator API is not a very oficial one, it's not well documented.
>>>>> For an example you would need to take a look in the Flink code itself by
>>>>> finding existing implementations of the `AbstractStreamOperator` or
>>>>> `OneInputStreamOperator`.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Piotrek
>>>>>
>>>>> pt., 18 cze 2021 o 12:49 Felipe Gutierrez <
>>>>> felipe.o.gutier...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Piotrek,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:48 AM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I can tell timers should be checkpointed and recovered.
>>>>>>> What may be happening is that the state of the last seen watermarks by
>>>>>>> operators on different inputs and different channels inside an input is 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> persisted. Flink is assuming that after the restart, watermark assigners
>>>>>>> will emit newer watermarks after the recovery. However if one of your
>>>>>>> inputs is dormant and it has already emitted some very high watermark 
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>> time before the failure, after recovery if no new watermark is emitted,
>>>>>>> this input/input channel might be preventing timers from firing. Can you
>>>>>>> check if that's what's happening in your case?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you are correct. at least when I reproduce the bug it is like
>>>>>> you said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so you would have to make sure one way or another that some
>>>>>>> watermarks will be emitted after recovery. As a last resort, you could
>>>>>>> manually store the watermarks in the operators/sources state and re-emit
>>>>>>> last seen watermark during recovery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please point how I can checkpoint the watermarks on a
>>>>>> source operator? Is it done by this code below from here (
>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/docs/dev/datastream/event-time/generating_watermarks/#watermark-strategies-and-the-kafka-connector
>>>>>> )?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FlinkKafkaConsumer<MyType> kafkaSource = new
>>>>>> FlinkKafkaConsumer<>("myTopic", schema, props);
>>>>>> kafkaSource.assignTimestampsAndWatermarks(
>>>>>>         WatermarkStrategy.
>>>>>>                 .forBoundedOutOfOrderness(Duration.ofSeconds(20)));
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Felipe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Piotrek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> czw., 17 cze 2021 o 13:46 Felipe Gutierrez <
>>>>>>> felipe.o.gutier...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have implemented a join function using CoProcessFunction with
>>>>>>>> CheckpointedFunction to recover from failures. I added some debug 
>>>>>>>> lines to
>>>>>>>> check if it is restoring and it does. Before the crash, I process 
>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>> that fall at processElement2. I create snapshots at snapshotState(), 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> application comes back and restores the events. That is fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After the restore, I process events that fall on processElement1. I
>>>>>>>> register event timers for them as I did on processElement2 before the
>>>>>>>> crash. But the onTimer() is never called. The point is that I don't 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> any events to send to processElement2() to make the CoProcessFunction
>>>>>>>> register a time for them. They were sent before the crash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose that the onTimer() is called only when there are
>>>>>>>> "timerService.registerEventTimeTimer(endOfWindow);" for 
>>>>>>>> processElement1 and
>>>>>>>> processElement2. Because when I test the same application without 
>>>>>>>> crashing
>>>>>>>> and the CoProcessFunction triggers the onTimer() method.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if I have a crash in the middle the CoProcessFunction does not
>>>>>>>> call onTimer(). Why is that? Is that normal? What do I have to do to 
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> the CoProcessFunction trigger the onTime() method even if only one 
>>>>>>>> stream
>>>>>>>> is processed let's say at the processElement2() method and the other 
>>>>>>>> stream
>>>>>>>> is restored from a snapshot? I imagine that I have to register a time
>>>>>>>> during the recovery (initializeState()). But how?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>> Felipe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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