The Flink community has a plan to delete the DataSet API in the future, the
requirements will be fulfilled by both
Table & DataStream API. It would be helpful to let us know what kind of
functionality is missing in these two APIs.
If you have further information you want to share, please let us know.

Best,
Kurt


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 9:18 PM Flavio Pompermaier <pomperma...@okkam.it>
wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions Kurt. Actually I could use Table Api I think,
> it's just that most of our Flink code use DataSet Api.
>
> Il dom 11 apr 2021, 13:44 Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Thanks for the suggestions Flavio. Join without window & left outer join
>> already worked in Table API & SQL.
>> And for reduceGroup, you can try either user defined aggregate function
>> or use table aggregate which is
>> available in Table API now. I'm wondering whether these can meet your
>> requirement, or you have other
>> use cases only feasible with DataStream.
>>
>> Best,
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 7:41 PM Flavio Pompermaier <pomperma...@okkam.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's absolutely useful. IMHO also join should work without
>>> windows/triggers and left/right outer joins should be easier in order to
>>> really migrate legacy code.
>>> Also reduceGroup would help but less urgent.
>>> I hope that my feedback as Flink user could be useful.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Flavio
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:38 PM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Converting from table to DataStream in batch mode is indeed a problem
>>>> now. But I think this will
>>>> be improved soon.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 6:14 PM Flavio Pompermaier <pomperma...@okkam.it>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In my real CSV I have LONG columns that can contain null values. In
>>>>> that case I get a parse exception (and I would like to avoid to read it as
>>>>> a string).
>>>>> The ',bye' is just the way you can test that in my example (add that
>>>>> line to the input csv).
>>>>> If I use  'csv.null-literal' = '' it seems to work but, is it a
>>>>> workaround or it is the right solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Another big problem I'm having with the new APIs is that if I use
>>>>>     TableEnvironment tableEnv = TableEnvironment.create(envSettings);
>>>>> then I can't convert a table to a datastream..I need to use
>>>>>     StreamTableEnvironment tableEnv =
>>>>> StreamTableEnvironment.create(streamEnv, envSettings);
>>>>> but in that case I can't use inBatchMode..
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 11:44 AM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> `format.ignore-first-line` is unfortunately a regression compared to
>>>>>> the old one.
>>>>>> I've created a ticket [1] to track this but according to current
>>>>>> design, it seems not easy to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding null values, I'm not sure if I understand the issue you
>>>>>> had. What do you mean by
>>>>>> using ',bye' to test null Long values?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-22178
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:46 PM Flavio Pompermaier <
>>>>>> pomperma...@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And another thing: in my csv I added ',bye' (to test null Long
>>>>>>> values) but I get a parse error..if I add  'csv.null-literal' = '' it 
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to work..is that the right way to solve this problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:13 AM Flavio Pompermaier <
>>>>>>> pomperma...@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Kurt, now it works. However I can't find a way to skip the
>>>>>>>> CSV header..before there was  "format.ignore-first-line" but now I 
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> find another way to skip it.
>>>>>>>> I could set csv.ignore-parse-errors to true but then I can't detect
>>>>>>>> other parsing errors, otherwise I need to manually transofrm the header
>>>>>>>> into a comment adding the # character at the start of the line..
>>>>>>>> How can I solve that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:07 AM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My DDL is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CREATE TABLE csv (
>>>>>>>>>        id BIGINT,
>>>>>>>>>        name STRING
>>>>>>>>> ) WITH (
>>>>>>>>>        'connector' = 'filesystem',
>>>>>>>>>        'path' = '.....',
>>>>>>>>>        'format' = 'csv'
>>>>>>>>> );
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:00 AM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We would recommend you to use new table source & sink interfaces,
>>>>>>>>>> which have different
>>>>>>>>>> property keys compared to the old ones, e.g. 'connector' v.s.
>>>>>>>>>> 'connector.type'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can follow the 1.12 doc [1] to define your csv table,
>>>>>>>>>> everything should work just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Flink SQL> set table.dml-sync=true;*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[INFO] Session property has been set.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Flink SQL> select * from csv;*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *+----------------------+----------------------+*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *|                   id |                 name |*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *+----------------------+----------------------+*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *|                    3 |                    c |*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *+----------------------+----------------------+*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Received a total of 1 row*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Flink SQL> insert overwrite csv values(4, 'd');*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[INFO] Submitting SQL update statement to the cluster...*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[INFO] Execute statement in sync mode. Please wait for the
>>>>>>>>>> execution finish...*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[INFO] Complete execution of the SQL update statement.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Flink SQL> select * from csv;*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *+----------------------+----------------------+*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *|                   id |                 name |*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *+----------------------+----------------------+*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *|                    4 |                    d |*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *+----------------------+----------------------+*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Received a total of 1 row*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.12/dev/table/connectors/filesystem.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 3:20 AM Flavio Pompermaier <
>>>>>>>>>> pomperma...@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>>>>>> since I was using the same WITH-clause both for reading and
>>>>>>>>>>> writing I discovered that overwrite is actually supported in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sinks,
>>>>>>>>>>> while in the Sources an exception is thrown (I was thinking that 
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> properties were simply ignored).
>>>>>>>>>>> However the quote-character is not supported in the sinks: is
>>>>>>>>>>> this a bug or is it the intended behaviour?.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a minimal example that reproduce the problem (put in the
>>>>>>>>>>> /tmp/test.csv something like '1,hello' or '2,hi').
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> import org.apache.flink.table.api.EnvironmentSettings;
>>>>>>>>>>> import org.apache.flink.table.api.Table;
>>>>>>>>>>> import org.apache.flink.table.api.TableEnvironment;
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> public class FlinkCsvTest {
>>>>>>>>>>>   public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
>>>>>>>>>>>     final EnvironmentSettings envSettings =
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> EnvironmentSettings.newInstance().useBlinkPlanner().inStreamingMode().build();
>>>>>>>>>>>     final TableEnvironment tableEnv =
>>>>>>>>>>> TableEnvironment.create(envSettings);
>>>>>>>>>>>     // ExecutionEnvironment env =
>>>>>>>>>>> ExecutionEnvironment.getExecutionEnvironment();
>>>>>>>>>>>     // BatchTableEnvironment tableEnv =
>>>>>>>>>>> BatchTableEnvironment.create(env);
>>>>>>>>>>>     final String tableInName = "testTableIn";
>>>>>>>>>>>     final String createInTableDdl = getSourceDdl(tableInName,
>>>>>>>>>>> "/tmp/test.csv"); //
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     final String tableOutName = "testTableOut";
>>>>>>>>>>>     final String createOutTableDdl = getSinkDdl(tableOutName,
>>>>>>>>>>> "/tmp/test-out.csv"); //
>>>>>>>>>>>     tableEnv.executeSql(createInTableDdl);
>>>>>>>>>>>     tableEnv.executeSql(createOutTableDdl);
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Table tableIn = tableEnv.from(tableInName);
>>>>>>>>>>>     Table tableOut = tableEnv.from(tableOutName);
>>>>>>>>>>>     tableIn.insertInto(tableOutName);
>>>>>>>>>>>     // tableEnv.toDataSet(table, Row.class).print();
>>>>>>>>>>>     tableEnv.execute("TEST read/write");
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   private static String getSourceDdl(String tableName, String
>>>>>>>>>>> filePath) {
>>>>>>>>>>>     return "CREATE TABLE " + tableName + " (\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " `id` BIGINT,\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " `name` STRING) WITH (\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'connector.type' = 'filesystem',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'connector.property-version' = '1',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'connector.path' = '" + filePath + "',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.type' = 'csv',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.field-delimiter' = ',',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>  //       " 'format.write-mode' = 'OVERWRITE',\n" + // NOT
>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORTED
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.property-version' = '1',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.quote-character' = '\"',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.ignore-first-line' = 'false'" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         ")";
>>>>>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   private static String getSinkDdl(String tableName, String
>>>>>>>>>>> filePath) {
>>>>>>>>>>>     return "CREATE TABLE " + tableName + " (\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " `id` BIGINT,\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " `name` STRING) WITH (\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'connector.type' = 'filesystem',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'connector.property-version' = '1',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'connector.path' = '" + filePath + "',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.type' = 'csv',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.field-delimiter' = ',',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.num-files' = '1',\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.write-mode' = 'OVERWRITE',\n" + // SUPPORTED
>>>>>>>>>>> (sinks only)
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.quote-character' = '\"',\n" + // NOT SUPPORTED
>>>>>>>>>>>         " 'format.property-version' = '1'\n" + //
>>>>>>>>>>>         ")";
>>>>>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the support,
>>>>>>>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:05 PM Till Rohrmann <
>>>>>>>>>>> trohrm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to execute the code snippet you have provided and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> could not reproduce the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Concretely I am running this code:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> final EnvironmentSettings envSettings =
>>>>>>>>>>>> EnvironmentSettings.newInstance()
>>>>>>>>>>>>     .useBlinkPlanner()
>>>>>>>>>>>>     .inStreamingMode()
>>>>>>>>>>>>     .build();
>>>>>>>>>>>> final TableEnvironment tableEnv =
>>>>>>>>>>>> TableEnvironment.create(envSettings);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tableEnv.fromValues("foobar").execute().await();
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I missing something? Maybe you can share a minimal but fully
>>>>>>>>>>>> working example where the problem occurs. Thanks a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 11:25 AM Flavio Pompermaier <
>>>>>>>>>>>> pomperma...@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help here? Moreover if I use the DataStream APIs there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no left/right outer join yet..are those meant to be added in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flink 1.13 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.14?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:27 PM Flavio Pompermaier <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pomperma...@okkam.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing writing to a CSV using Flink 1.13 and I get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The matching candidates:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.flink.table.sinks.CsvBatchTableSinkFactory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsupported property keys:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format.quote-character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create the table env using this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final EnvironmentSettings envSettings =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EnvironmentSettings.newInstance()//
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         .useBlinkPlanner()//
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         // .inBatchMode()//
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         .inStreamingMode()//
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         .build();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     final TableEnvironment tableEnv =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TableEnvironment.create(envSettings);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The error is the same both with inBatchMode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and inStreamingMode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this really not supported or am I using the wrong API?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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