Yes, I will do that.

Regarding the metrics dump through REST, it does provide for the TM
specific but  refuses to do it for all jobs and vertices/operators etc
.Moreover I am not sure I have access to the vertices ( vertex_id ) readily
from the UI.

curl http://[jm]/taskmanagers/[tm_id]
curl http://[jm]/taskmanagers/[tm_id]/metrics



On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 4:24 AM Arvid Heise <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Vishal,
>
> REST API is the most direct way to get through all metrics as Matthias
> pointed out. Additionally, you could also add a JMX reporter and log to the
> machines to check.
>
> But in general, I think you are on the right track. You need to reduce the
> metrics that are sent to DD by configuring the scope / excluding variables.
>
> Furthermore, I think it would be a good idea to make the timeout
> configurable. Could you open a ticket for that?
>
> Best,
>
> Arvid
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:02 AM Matthias Pohl <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vishal,
>> what about the TM metrics' REST endpoint [1]. Is this something you could
>> use to get all the metrics for a specific TaskManager? Or are you looking
>> for something else?
>>
>> Best,
>> Matthias
>>
>> [1]
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.12/ops/rest_api.html#taskmanagers-metrics
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:59 PM Vishal Santoshi <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That said, is there a way to get a dump of all metrics exposed by TM. I
>>> was searching for it and I bet we could get it for ServieMonitor on k8s (
>>> scrape ) but am missing a way to het a TM and dump all metrics that are
>>> pushed.
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 5:56 PM Vishal Santoshi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess there is a bigger issue here. We dropped the property to 500.
>>>> We also realized that this failure happened on a TM that had one specific
>>>> job running on it. What was good ( but surprising ) that the exception was
>>>> the more protocol specific 413  ( as in the chunk is greater then some size
>>>> limit DD has on a request.
>>>>
>>>> Failed to send request to Datadog (response was Response{protocol=h2,
>>>> code=413, message=, url=
>>>> https://app.datadoghq.com/api/v1/series?api_key=**********}
>>>> <https://app.datadoghq.com/api/v1/series?api_key=0ffa36e48f5042465635b5843fa3f2a6%7D>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> which implies that the Socket timeout was masking this issue. The 2000
>>>> was just a huge payload that DD was unable to parse in time ( or was slow
>>>> to upload etc ). Now we could go lower but that makes less sense. We could
>>>> play with
>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/ops/metrics.html#system-scope
>>>> to reduce the size of the tags ( or keys ).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:33 AM Vishal Santoshi <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If we look at this
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/97bfd049951f8d52a2e0aed14265074c4255ead0/flink-metrics/flink-metrics-datadog/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/metrics/datadog/DatadogHttpReporter.java#L159>
>>>>> code , the metrics are divided into chunks up-to a max size. and
>>>>> enqueued
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/97bfd049951f8d52a2e0aed14265074c4255ead0/flink-metrics/flink-metrics-datadog/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/metrics/datadog/DatadogHttpClient.java#L110>.
>>>>> The Request
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/97bfd049951f8d52a2e0aed14265074c4255ead0/flink-metrics/flink-metrics-datadog/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/metrics/datadog/DatadogHttpClient.java#L75>
>>>>> has a 3 second read/connect/write timeout which IMHO should have been
>>>>> configurable ( or is it ) . While the number metrics ( all metrics )
>>>>> exposed by flink cluster is pretty high ( and the names of the metrics
>>>>> along with tags ) , it may make sense to limit the number of metrics in a
>>>>> single chunk ( to ultimately limit the size of a single chunk ). There is
>>>>> this configuration which allows for reducing the metrics in a single chunk
>>>>>
>>>>> metrics.reporter.dghttp.maxMetricsPerRequest: 2000
>>>>>
>>>>> We could decrease this to 1500 ( 1500 is pretty, not based on any
>>>>> empirical reasoning ) and see if that stabilizes the dispatch. It is
>>>>> inevitable that the number of requests will grow and we may hit the
>>>>> throttle but then we know the exception rather than the timeouts that are
>>>>> generally less intuitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:37 AM Arvid Heise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Vishal,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no experience in the Flink+DataDog setup but worked a bit with
>>>>>> DataDog before.
>>>>>> I'd agree that the timeout does not seem like a rate limit. It would
>>>>>> also be odd that the other TMs with a similar rate still pass. So I'd
>>>>>> suspect n/w issues.
>>>>>> Can you log into the TM's machine and try out manually how the system
>>>>>> behaves?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:44 PM Vishal Santoshi <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>                   This is quite strange. We see a TM stop reporting
>>>>>>> metrics to DataDog .The logs from that specific TM  for every
>>>>>>> DataDog dispatch time out with* java.net.SocketTimeoutException:
>>>>>>> timeout *and that seems to repeat over every dispatch to DataDog.
>>>>>>> It seems it is on a 10 seconds cadence per container. The TM remains
>>>>>>> humming, so does not seem to be under memory/CPU distress. And the
>>>>>>> exception is *not* transient. It just stops dead and from there on
>>>>>>> timeout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at SLA provided by DataDog any throttling exception should
>>>>>>> pretty much not be a SocketTimeOut, till of course the reporting the
>>>>>>> specific issue is off. This thus appears very much a n/w issue which
>>>>>>> appears weird as other TMs with the same n/w just hum along, sending 
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> metrics successfully. The other issue could be just the amount of 
>>>>>>> metrics
>>>>>>> and the current volume for the TM is prohibitive. That said the 
>>>>>>> exception
>>>>>>> is still not helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas from folks who have used DataDog reporter with Flink. I
>>>>>>> guess even best practices may be a sufficient beginning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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