Hi Yuval,

That's correct you will always get a LogicalWatermarkAssigner if you
assigned a watermark.
If you implement SupportsWatermarkPushdown, the LogicalWatermarkAssigner
will be pushed
into TableSource, and then you can push Filter into source if source
implement SupportsFilterPushdown.

Best,
Jark

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 01:16, Yuval Itzchakov <yuva...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Timo,
> After investigating this further, this is actually non related to
> implementing SupportsWatermarkPushdown.
>
> Once I create a TableSchema for my custom source's RowData, and assign it
> a watermark (see my example in the original mail), the plan will always
> include a LogicalWatermarkAssigner. This assigner that is between the
> LogicalTableScan and the LogicalFilter will then go on and fail the
> HepPlanner from invoking the optimization since it requires
> LogicalTableScan to be a direct child of LogicalFilter. Since I have
> LogicalFilter -> LogicalWatermarkAssigner -> LogicalTableScan, this won't
> work.
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 5:59 PM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yuval,
>>
>> sorry that nobody replied earlier. Somehow your email fell through the
>> cracks.
>>
>> If I understand you correctly, could would like to implement a table
>> source that implements both `SupportsWatermarkPushDown` and
>> `SupportsFilterPushDown`?
>>
>> The current behavior might be on purpose. Filters and Watermarks are not
>> very compatible. Filtering would also mean that records (from which
>> watermarks could be generated) are skipped. If the filter is very
>> strict, we would not generate any new watermarks and the pipeline would
>> stop making progress in time.
>>
>> Watermark push down is only necessary, if per-partition watermarks are
>> required. Otherwise the watermarks are generated in a subsequent
>> operator after the source. So you can still use rowtime without
>> implementing `SupportsWatermarkPushDown` in your custom source.
>>
>> I will lookp in Shengkai who worked on this topic recently.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Timo
>>
>>
>> On 04.03.21 18:52, Yuval Itzchakov wrote:
>> > Bumping this up again, would appreciate any help if anyone is familiar
>> > with the blink planner.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Yuval.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 18:53 Yuval Itzchakov <yuva...@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:yuva...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi Jark,
>> >     Would appreciate your help with this.
>> >
>> >     On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 12:09 PM Roman Khachatryan <
>> ro...@apache.org
>> >     <mailto:ro...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Hi Yuval,
>> >
>> >         I'm not familiar with the Blink planner but probably Jark can
>> help.
>> >
>> >         Regards,
>> >         Roman
>> >
>> >
>> >         On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Yuval Itzchakov
>> >         <yuva...@gmail.com <mailto:yuva...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >             Update: When I don't set the watermark explicitly on the
>> >             TableSchema, `applyWatermarkStrategy` never gets called on
>> >             my ScanTableSource, which does make sense. But now the
>> >             question is what should be done? This feels a bit
>> unintuitive.
>> >
>> >             On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:09 PM Yuval Itzchakov
>> >             <yuva...@gmail.com <mailto:yuva...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >                 Hi,
>> >                 Flink 1.12.1, Blink Planner, Scala 2.12
>> >
>> >                 I have the following logical plan:
>> >
>> >
>>  LogicalSink(table=[default_catalog.default_database.table], fields=[bar,
>> baz, hello_world, a, b])
>> >                 +- LogicalProject(value=[$2],
>> >                 bar=[CAST(CAST($0):TIMESTAMP(3)):TIMESTAMP(6)],
>> >                 baz=[CAST(CAST($0):TIMESTAMP(3)):TIMESTAMP(6)],
>> >                 hello_world=[null:VARCHAR(2147483647) CHARACTER SET
>> >                 "UTF-16LE"], a=[null:VARCHAR(2147483647) CHARACTER SET
>> >                 "UTF-16LE"], b=[EMPTY_MAP()])
>> >                     +- LogicalFilter(condition=[AND(=($4,
>> >                 _UTF-16LE'bar'), =($34, _UTF-16LE'baz'))])
>> >                        +- LogicalWatermarkAssigner(rowtime=[bar],
>> >                 watermark=[$0])
>> >                           +- LogicalTableScan(table=[[default_catalog,
>> >                 default_database, foo]])
>> >
>> >                 I have a custom source which creates a TableSchema based
>> >                 on an external table. When I create the schema, I push
>> >                 the watermark definition to the schema:
>> >
>> >                 image.png
>> >
>> >                 When the HepPlanner starts the optimization phase and
>> >                 reaches the "PushFilterInotTableSourceScanRule", it
>> >                 matches on the LogicalFilter in the definition. But
>> >                 then, since the RelOptRuleOperandChildPolicy is set to
>> >                 "SOME", it attempts to do a full match on the child
>> >                 nodes. Since the rule is defined as so:
>> >
>> >                 image.png
>> >
>> >                 The child filter fails since the immediate child of the
>> >                 filter is a "LocalWatermarkAssigner", and not the
>> >                 "LogicalTableScan" which is the grandchild:
>> >
>> >                 image.png
>> >
>> >                 Is this the desired behavior? Should I create the
>> >                 TableSchema without the row time attribute and use
>> >                 "SupportsWatermarkPushdown" to generate the watermark
>> >                 dynamically from the source record?
>> >
>> >                 --
>> >                 Best Regards,
>> >                 Yuval Itzchakov.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >             --
>> >             Best Regards,
>> >             Yuval Itzchakov.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     --
>> >     Best Regards,
>> >     Yuval Itzchakov.
>> >
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Yuval Itzchakov.
>

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