Hi Stephen,

it would I meant was that the schema of the table might still contain a column that descibes the change "isRetract". We cannot apply it internally. But of course you can deal with this column in a SQL query.

This answer here and the linked answer might also help you:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59360243/flink-sql-use-changelog-stream-to-update-rows-in-dynamic-table


Regards,
Timo


On 06.02.20 12:37, Stephen Young wrote:
Are you able to advise any further Timo? Thanks!

On 2020/02/04 16:10:04, Stephen Young <wintersg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Timo,

Thanks for replying to me so quickly!

We could do it with insert-only rows. When you say flags in the data do you 
mean a field with a name like 'retracts' and then the value of that field is 
the id of the event/row we want to retract? How would that be possible with 
Flink?

Thanks!

On 2020/02/04 15:27:20, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi Stephan,

the use cases you are describing sound like a perfect fit to Flink.
Internally, Flink deals with insertions and deletions that are flowing
through the system and can update chained aggregations and complex queries.

The only bigger limitation at the moment is that we only support sources
that emit insert-only rows. The community is currently working on
designing how we expose the internal changelog processing capabilities
through our APIs.

However, your use case might also work with insert-only rows and a query
based on the flags in the data, correct?

Regards,
Timo


On 04.02.20 16:14, Stephen Young wrote:
I am currently looking into how Flink can support a live data collection 
platform. We want to collect certain data in real-time. This data will be sent 
to Kafka and we want to use Flink to calculate statistics and derived events 
from it.

An important thing we need to be able to handle is amendment or deletion 
events. For example, we may get an event that someone has performed an action 
and from this we'd calculate how many of these actions they had taken in total. 
We'd also build calculations on top of that, for example top 10 rankings by 
these counts, or arbitrarily many layers of calculations beyond that. But 
sometime later (this could be a few seconds or a week) we receive an amendment 
event to that action. This indicates that the action was taken by a different 
person or from a different location. We then need Flink to recalculate all of 
our downstream stats i.e. the counts need to be changed and rankings need to be 
adjusted.

>From my research into Flink I can see there is a page about Dynamic Tables and 
also there was some stuff about retraction support for the Table/SQL API. But it 
seems like this is simply how Flink models changes to aggregated data. I would 
like to be able to do something like calculate a count from a set of events each 
with their own id, then retract one of those events by its id and have the count 
automatically change.

Is anything like this achievable with Flink? Thanks!





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