Hi Mark,

Currently no, but if rolling on every checkpoint is ok with you, in future
versions it is easy to allow to roll on every checkpoint, but also on
inactivity intervals.

Cheers,
Kostas

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:24 PM Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com> wrote:

> Hi Kostas,
>
> Thanks for your help here - I think we're OK with the increased heap size,
> but happy to explore other alternatives.
>
> I see the problem - we're currently using a BulkFormat, which doesn't seem
> to let us override the rolling policy. Is there an equivalent for the
> BulkFormat?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* 03 February 2020 15:39
> *To:* Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> *Cc:* Piotr Nowojski <pi...@ververica.com>; Cliff Resnick <
> cre...@gmail.com>; David Magalhães <speeddra...@gmail.com>; Till Rohrmann
> <trohrm...@apache.org>; flink-u...@apache.org <flink-u...@apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GC overhead limit exceeded, memory full of DeleteOnExit
> hooks for S3a files
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> You can use something like the following and change the intervals
> accordingly:
>
> final StreamingFileSink<String> sink = StreamingFileSink
>                           .forRowFormat(new Path(outputPath), new
> SimpleStringEncoder<>("UTF-8"))
>                            .withRollingPolicy(
>                                    DefaultRollingPolicy.builder()
>                                                                       .
> withRolloverInterval(TimeUnit.MINUTES.toMillis(15))
>                                                                       .
> withInactivityInterval(TimeUnit.MINUTES.toMillis(5))
>                                                                       .
> withMaxPartSize(1024 * 1024 * 1024)
>                                                                       .
> build()
>                           ) .build();
>
> Let me know if this solves the problem.
>
> Cheers,
> Kostas
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:11 PM Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Kostas,
>
> Sorry, stupid question: How do I set that for a StreamingFileSink?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* 03 February 2020 14:58
> *To:* Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> *Cc:* Piotr Nowojski <pi...@ververica.com>; Cliff Resnick <
> cre...@gmail.com>; David Magalhães <speeddra...@gmail.com>; Till Rohrmann
> <trohrm...@apache.org>; flink-u...@apache.org <flink-u...@apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GC overhead limit exceeded, memory full of DeleteOnExit
> hooks for S3a files
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Have you tried to set your rolling policy to close inactive part files
> after some time [1]?
> If the part files in the buckets are inactive and there are no new part
> files, then the state handle for those buckets will also be removed.
>
> Cheers,
> Kostas
>
>
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/api/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/functions/sink/filesystem/rollingpolicies/DefaultRollingPolicy.html
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 3:54 PM Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The out-of-memory heap dump had the answer - the job was failing with an
> OutOfMemoryError because the activeBuckets members of 3 instances of
> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.functions.sink.filesystem.Buckets were
> filling a significant enough part of the memory of the taskmanager that no
> progress was being made. Increasing the memory available to the TM seems to
> have fixed the problem.
>
> I think the DeleteOnExit problem will mean it needs to be restarted every
> few weeks, but that's acceptable for now.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Mark
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> *Sent:* 30 January 2020 14:36
> *To:* Piotr Nowojski <pi...@ververica.com>
> *Cc:* Cliff Resnick <cre...@gmail.com>; David Magalhães <
> speeddra...@gmail.com>; Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>;
> flink-u...@apache.org <flink-u...@apache.org>; kkloudas <
> kklou...@apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GC overhead limit exceeded, memory full of DeleteOnExit
> hooks for S3a files
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your help with this. 🙂
>
> The EMR cluster has 3 15GB VMs, and the flink cluster is started with:
>
> /usr/lib/flink/bin/yarn-session.sh -d -n 3 -tm 5760 -jm 5760 -s 3
>
> Usually the task runs for about 15 minutes before it restarts, usually due
> to with an "java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space" exception.
>
> The figures came from a MemoryAnalyzer session on a manual memory dump
> from one of the taskmanagers. The total size of that heap was only 1.8gb.
> In that heap, 1.7gb is taken up by the static field "files" in
> DeleteOnExitHook, which is a linked hash set containing the 9 million
> strings.
>
> A full example of one the path is
> /tmp/hadoop-yarn/s3a/s3ablock-0001-6061210725685.tmp, at for 120 bytes per
> char[] for a solid 1.2gb of chars. Then 200mb for their String wrappers and
> another 361MB for LinkedHashMap$Entry objects. Despite valiantly holding
> on to an array of 16777216 HashMap$Node elements, the LinkedHashMap can
> only contribute another 20MB or so.
> I goofed in not taking that 85% figure from MemoryAnalyzer - it tells
> me DeleteOnExitHook is responsible for 96.98% of the heap dump.
>
> Looking at the files it managed to write before this started to happen
> regularly, it looks like they're being written approximately every 3
> minutes. I'll triple check our config, but I'm reasonably sure the job is
> configured to checkpoint every 15 minutes - could something else be causing
> it to write?
>
> This may all be a red herring - something else may be taking up the
> taskmanagers memory which didn't make it into that heap dump. I plan to
> repeat the analysis on a heapdump created
> by  -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError shortly.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Piotr Nowojski <pi...@ververica.com>
> *Sent:* 30 January 2020 13:44
> *To:* Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> *Cc:* Cliff Resnick <cre...@gmail.com>; David Magalhães <
> speeddra...@gmail.com>; Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>;
> flink-u...@apache.org <flink-u...@apache.org>; kkloudas <
> kklou...@apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GC overhead limit exceeded, memory full of DeleteOnExit
> hooks for S3a files
>
> Hi,
>
> What is your job setup? Size of the nodes, memory settings of the
> Flink/JVM?
>
> 9 041 060 strings is awfully small number to bring down a whole cluster.
> With each tmp string having ~30 bytes, that’s only 271MB. Is this really
> 85% of the heap? And also, with parallelism of 6 and checkpoints every 15
> minutes, 9 000 000 of leaked strings should happen only after one month
>  assuming 500-600 total number of buckets. (Also assuming that there is a
> separate file per each bucket).
>
> Piotrek
>
> On 30 Jan 2020, at 14:21, Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com> wrote:
>
> Trying a few different approaches to the fs.s3a.fast.upload settings has
> bought me no joy - the taskmanagers end up simply crashing or complaining
> of high GC load. Heap dumps suggest that this time they're clogged with
> buffers instead, which makes sense.
>
> Our job has parallelism of 6 and checkpoints every 15 minutes - if
> anything, we'd like to increase the frequency of that checkpoint duration.
> I suspect this could be affected by the partition structure we were
> bucketing to as well, and at any given moment we could be receiving data
> for up to 280 buckets at once.
> Could this be a factor?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Piotr Nowojski <pi...@ververica.com>
> *Sent:* 27 January 2020 16:16
> *To:* Cliff Resnick <cre...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* David Magalhães <speeddra...@gmail.com>; Mark Harris <
> mark.har...@hivehome.com>; Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>;
> flink-u...@apache.org <flink-u...@apache.org>; kkloudas <
> kklou...@apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GC overhead limit exceeded, memory full of DeleteOnExit
> hooks for S3a files
>
> Hi,
>
> I think reducing the frequency of the checkpoints and decreasing
> parallelism of the things using the S3AOutputStream class, would help to
> mitigate the issue.
>
> I don’t know about other solutions. I would suggest to ask this question
> directly to Steve L. in the bug ticket [1], as he is the one that fixed the
> issue. If there is no workaround, maybe it would be possible to put a
> pressure on the Hadoop guys to back port the fix to older versions?
>
> Piotrek
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15658
>
> On 27 Jan 2020, at 15:41, Cliff Resnick <cre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know from experience that Flink's shaded S3A FileSystem does not
> reference core-site.xml, though I don't remember offhand what file (s) it
> does reference. However since it's shaded, maybe this could be fixed by
> building a Flink FS referencing 3.3.0? Last I checked I think it referenced
> 3.1.0.
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 8:48 AM David Magalhães <speeddra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Does StreamingFileSink use core-site.xml ? When I was using it, it didn't
> load any configurations from core-site.xml.
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Piotr,
>
> Thanks for the link to the issue.
>
> Do you know if there's a workaround? I've tried setting the following in
> my core-site.xml:
>
> ​fs.s3a.fast.upload.buffer=true
>
> To try and avoid writing the buffer files, but the taskmanager breaks with
> the same problem.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Piotr Nowojski <pi...@data-artisans.com> on behalf of Piotr
> Nowojski <pi...@ververica.com>
> *Sent:* 22 January 2020 13:29
> *To:* Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
> *Cc:* Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>; flink-u...@apache.org <
> flink-u...@apache.org>; kkloudas <kklou...@apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GC overhead limit exceeded, memory full of DeleteOnExit
> hooks for S3a files
>
> Hi,
>
> This is probably a known issue of Hadoop [1]. Unfortunately it was only
> fixed in 3.3.0.
>
> Piotrek
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15658
>
> On 22 Jan 2020, at 13:56, Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for reporting this issue Mark. I'm pulling Klou into this
> conversation who knows more about the StreamingFileSink. @Klou does the
> StreamingFileSink relies on DeleteOnExitHooks to clean up files?
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 3:38 PM Mark Harris <mark.har...@hivehome.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We're using flink 1.7.2 on an EMR cluster v emr-5.22.0, which runs hadoop
> v "Amazon 2.8.5". We've recently noticed that some TaskManagers fail
> (causing all the jobs running on them to fail) with an
> "java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded”. The taskmanager
> (and jobs that should be running on it) remain down until manually
> restarted.
>
> I managed to take and analyze a memory dump from one of the afflicted
> taskmanagers.
>
> It showed that 85% of the heap was made up of
> the java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.files hashset. The majority of the strings in
> that hashset (9041060 out of ~9041100) pointed to files that began
> /tmp/hadoop-yarn/s3a/s3ablock
>
> The problem seems to affect jobs that make use of the StreamingFileSink -
> all of the taskmanager crashes have been on the taskmaster running at least
> one job using this sink, and a cluster running only a single taskmanager /
> job that uses the StreamingFileSink crashed with the GC overhead limit
> exceeded error.
>
> I've had a look for advice on handling this error more broadly without
> luck.
>
> Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Harris
>
>
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