Hi Chesnay,
 
We archive jobs on s3 file system. We don't configure a throttling for write operations and afaik it isn't possible now and will be implemented in FLINK-13251. And other write operations (like checkpoints saving) work fine. But I don't see archived job or message about archiving failure at all. It looks like Flink just didn't try to save job to archive.
 
21.11.2019, 17:17, "Chesnay Schepler" <ches...@apache.org>:
If the archiving fails there should be some log message, like "Failed to archive job" or "Could not archive completed job..." .
If nothing of the sort is logged my first instinct would be that the operation is being slowed down, _a lot_.
 
Where are you archiving them to? Could it be the write operation is being throttled heavily?
 
On 21/11/2019 13:48, Pavel Potseluev wrote:
Hi Vino,
 
Usually Flink archives jobs correctly and the problem is rarely reproduced. So I think it isn't a problem with configuration.
 
Job Manager log when job 5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136 was canceled:

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:52:13.294 [Checkpoint Timer] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.CheckpointCoordinator  - Triggering checkpoint 1872 @ 1574092333218 for job 5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:52:37.260 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-30] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.CheckpointCoordinator  - Completed checkpoint 1872 for job 5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136 (568048140 bytes in 23541 ms).

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:13.314 [Checkpoint Timer] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.CheckpointCoordinator  - Triggering checkpoint 1873 @ 1574092393218 for job 5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.279 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Job bureau-user-offers-statistics-AUTORU-USERS_AUTORU (5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136) switched from state RUNNING to CANCELLING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.279 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Source: Custom File Source (1/1) (934d89cf3d7999b40225dd8009b5493c) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.280 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Source: kafka-source-moderation-update-journal-autoru -> Filter -> Flat Map (1/2) (47656a3c4fc70e19622acca31267e41f) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.280 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Source: kafka-source-moderation-update-journal-autoru -> Filter -> Flat Map (2/2) (be3c4562e65d3d6bdfda4f1632017c6c) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.280 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - user-offers-statistics-init-from-file -> Map (1/2) (4a45ed43b05e4d444e190a44b33514ac) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.280 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - user-offers-statistics-init-from-file -> Map (2/2) (bb3be311c5e53abaedb06b4d0148c23f) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.280 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Keyed Reduce -> Map -> Sink: user-offers-statistics-autoru (1/2) (cfb291033df3f19c9745a6f2fd25e037) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.280 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-40] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Keyed Reduce -> Map -> Sink: user-offers-statistics-autoru (2/2) (9ce7cd66199513fa97ac44d7617f0c83) switched from RUNNING to CANCELING.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.299 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Source: Custom File Source (1/1) (934d89cf3d7999b40225dd8009b5493c) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.300 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Source: kafka-source-moderation-update-journal-autoru -> Filter -> Flat Map (1/2) (47656a3c4fc70e19622acca31267e41f) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.300 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Source: kafka-source-moderation-update-journal-autoru -> Filter -> Flat Map (2/2) (be3c4562e65d3d6bdfda4f1632017c6c) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.344 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - user-offers-statistics-init-from-file -> Map (2/2) (bb3be311c5e53abaedb06b4d0148c23f) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.345 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - user-offers-statistics-init-from-file -> Map (1/2) (4a45ed43b05e4d444e190a44b33514ac) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.706 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Keyed Reduce -> Map -> Sink: user-offers-statistics-autoru (1/2) (cfb291033df3f19c9745a6f2fd25e037) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.714 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Keyed Reduce -> Map -> Sink: user-offers-statistics-autoru (2/2) (9ce7cd66199513fa97ac44d7617f0c83) switched from CANCELING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.714 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.executiongraph.ExecutionGraph  - Job bureau-user-offers-statistics-AUTORU-USERS_AUTORU (5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136) switched from state CANCELLING to CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.714 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.CheckpointCoordinator  - Stopping checkpoint coordinator for job 5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.714 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  o.a.f.runtime.checkpoint.ZooKeeperCompletedCheckpointStore  - Shutting down

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.966 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.zookeeper.ZooKeeperStateHandleStore  - Removing /moderation-flink/testing/checkpoints/5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136 from ZooKeeper

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:19.966 [cluster-io-thread-6] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.CompletedCheckpoint  - Checkpoint with ID 1872 at 's3://misc/moderation-flink/flink-checkpoints/5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136/chk-1872' not discarded.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:20.044 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  o.a.flink.runtime.checkpoint.ZooKeeperCheckpointIDCounter  - Shutting down.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:20.045 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  o.a.flink.runtime.checkpoint.ZooKeeperCheckpointIDCounter  - Removing /checkpoint-counter/5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136 from ZooKeeper

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:53:20.259 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-2] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.dispatcher.StandaloneDispatcher  - Job 5ec264a20bb5005cdbd8e23a5e59f136 reached globally terminal state CANCELED.

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:54:24.085 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-31] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmaster.slotpool.SlotPoolImpl  - Releasing idle slot [0553df66161f5d78f4b41d8c8c32c21f].

771a4992-d694-d2a4-b49a-d4eb382086e5 2019-11-18 18:54:24.085 [flink-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-31] INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmaster.slotpool.SlotPoolImpl  - Releasing idle slot [498b9bf0c0f2188ff739d72e6df288dc].

 
21.11.2019, 06:07, "vino yang" <yanghua1...@gmail.com>:
If everything is OK(your config options about archive dir and history server is correct), Flink should archive the completed job.
 
You said you did not find any exceptions in the log about failing to archive. But any other exceptions? Can you share the logs about your scene?
 
Best,
Vino
 
Pavel Potseluev <potsel...@yandex-team.ru> 于2019年11月21日周四 上午2:25写道:
Hi all,
 
We see occasionally that flink doesn't save information about canceled job to archive directory (configured by jobmanager.archive.fs.dir property). And there are no exceptions in the log about failing archiving. It's a problem in our use case because our script for deploying jobs relies on flink history server to find latest checkpoint for some job. Does flink guarantee saving data to archive? If so, any ideas why it doesn't work sometimes? Flink version is 1.8.0.
 
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