Hi Fabian, Hi Zhenghua 

Thank you for your suggestions and telling me that I was on the right track. 
And good to know how to find out whether something yields to time-bounded or 
regular join. 

@Fabian: Regarding your suggested first option: Isn't that exactly what my 
first try was? With this TUMBLE_START... That sadly didn't work due to " 
Rowtime attributes must not be in the input rows of a regular join ". But I'll 
give option 2 a try by just adding another attribute. 

And some addition: Regarding my second try: I wrote that the reduced query 
didn't produce any data, but that was indeed my mistake. I fiddled around too 
much with my data so that I manipulated the original data in a way that the 
query couldn't output a result any more when testing all of those combinations. 
Now the second attempt works but isn't really what I wanted to query (as the 
"same day"-predicate is still missing). 

Best regards 
Theo 


Von: "Fabian Hueske" <fhue...@gmail.com> 
An: "Zhenghua Gao" <doc...@gmail.com> 
CC: "Theo Diefenthal" <theo.diefent...@scoop-software.de>, "user" 
<user@flink.apache.org> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. August 2019 10:05:45 
Betreff: Re: I'm not able to make a stream-stream Time windows JOIN in Flink 
SQL 

Hi Theo, 

The main problem is that the semantics of your join (Join all events that 
happened on the same day) are not well-supported by Flink yet. 

In terms of true streaming joins, Flink supports the time-windowed join (with 
the BETWEEN predicate) and the time-versioned table join (which does not apply 
here). 
The first does not really fit because it puts the windows "around the event", 
i.e., if you have an event at 12:35 and a window of 10 mins earlier and 15 mins 
later, it will join with events between 12:25 and 12:50. 
An other limitation of Flink is that you cannot modify event-time attributes 
(well you can, but they lose their event-time property and become regular 
TIMESTAMP attributes). 
This limitation exists, because we must ensure that the attributes are still 
aligned with watermarks after they were modified (or adjusting the watermarks 
accordingly). 
Since analyzing expressions that modify timestamps to figure out whether they 
preserve watermark alignment is very difficult, we opted to always remove 
event-time property when an event-time attribute is modified. 

I see two options for your use case: 

1) use the join that you described before with the -24 and +24 hour window and 
apply more fine-grained predicates to filter out the join results that you 
don't need. 
2) add an additional time attribute to your input that is a rounded down 
version of the timestamp (rounded to 24h), declare the rounded timestamp as 
your event-time attribute, and join with an equality predicate on the rounded 
timestamp. 

Best, Fabian 

Am Di., 13. Aug. 2019 um 13:41 Uhr schrieb Zhenghua Gao < [ 
mailto:doc...@gmail.com | doc...@gmail.com ] >: 



I wrote a demo example for time windowed join which you can pick up [1] 
[1] [ https://gist.github.com/docete/8e78ff8b5d0df69f60dda547780101f1 | 
https://gist.github.com/docete/8e78ff8b5d0df69f60dda547780101f1 ] 

Best Regards, 
Zhenghua Gao 


On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:13 PM Zhenghua Gao < [ mailto:doc...@gmail.com | 
doc...@gmail.com ] > wrote: 

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You can check the plan after optimize to verify it's a regular join or 
time-bounded join(Should have a WindowJoin). The most direct way is breakpoint 
at optimizing phase [1][2]. 
And you can use your TestData and create an ITCase for debugging [3] 


[1] [ 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner-blink/src/main/scala/org/apache/flink/table/planner/delegation/PlannerBase.scala#L148
 | 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner-blink/src/main/scala/org/apache/flink/table/planner/delegation/PlannerBase.scala#L148
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[2] [ 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner/src/main/scala/org/apache/flink/table/plan/StreamOptimizer.scala#L68
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https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner/src/main/scala/org/apache/flink/table/plan/StreamOptimizer.scala#L68
 ] 
[3] [ 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner-blink/src/test/scala/org/apache/flink/table/planner/runtime/stream/sql/WindowJoinITCase.scala
 | 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner-blink/src/test/scala/org/apache/flink/table/planner/runtime/stream/sql/WindowJoinITCase.scala
 ] 

Best Regards, 
Zhenghua Gao 


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 10:49 PM Theo Diefenthal < [ 
mailto:theo.diefent...@scoop-software.de | theo.diefent...@scoop-software.de ] 
> wrote: 

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Hi there, 

Currently, I'm trying to write a SQL query which shall executed a time 
windowed/bounded JOIN on two data streams. 

Suppose I have stream1 with attribute id, ts, user and stream2 with attribute 
id, ts, userName. I want to receive the natural JOIN of both streams with 
events of the same day. 

In Oracle (With a ts column as number instead of Timestamp, for historical 
reasons), I do the following: 

SELECT * 
FROM STREAM1 
JOIN STREAM2 ON STREAM1. "user" = STREAM2. "userName" 
AND TRUNC ( TO_DATE ( '19700101' , 'YYYYMMDD' ) + ( 1 / 24 / 60 / 60 / 1000 ) * 
STREAM1. "ts" ) = TRUNC ( TO_DATE ( '19700101' , 'YYYYMMDD' ) + ( 1 / 24 / 60 / 
60 / 1000 ) * STREAM2. "ts" ); 
which yields 294 rows with my test data (14 elements from stream1 match to 21 
elements in stream2 on the one day of test data). Now I want to query the same 
in Flink. So I registered both streams as table and properly registered the 
even-time (by specifying ts.rowtime as table column). 

My goal is to produce a time-windowed JOIN so that, if both streams advance 
their watermark far enough, an element is written out into an append only 
stream. 

First try (to conform time-bounded-JOIN conditions): 
SELECT [ http://s1.id/ | s1.id ] , [ http://s2.id/ | s2.id ] 
FROM STREAM1 AS s1 
JOIN STREAM2 AS s2 
ON s1.`user` = s2.userName 
AND s1.ts BETWEEN s2.ts - INTERVAL '24' HOUR AND s2.ts + INTERVAL '24' HOUR 
AND s2.ts BETWEEN s1.ts - INTERVAL '24' HOUR AND s1.ts + INTERVAL '24' HOUR 
AND TUMBLE_START(s1.ts, INTERVAL '1' DAY ) = TUMBLE_START(s2.ts, INTERVAL '1' 
DAY ) -- Reduce to matchings on the same day. 
This yielded in the exception "Rowtime attributes must not be in the input rows 
of a regular join. As a workaround you can cast the time attributes of input 
tables to TIMESTAMP before.". So I'm still in the area of regular joins, not 
time-windowed JOINs, even though I made the explicit BETWEEN for both input 
streams! 

Then I found [1], which really is my query but without the last condition 
(reduce to matching on the same day). I tried this one as well, just to have a 
starting point, but the error is the same. 
I then reduced the Condition to just one time bound: 
SELECT [ http://s1.id/ | s1.id ] , [ http://s2.id/ | s2.id ] 
FROM STREAM1 AS s1 
JOIN STREAM2 AS s2 
ON s1.`user` = s2.userName 
AND s1.ts BETWEEN s2.ts - INTERVAL '24' HOUR AND s2.ts + INTERVAL '24' HOUR 
which runs as a query but doesn't produce any results. Most likely because 
Flink still thinks of a regular join instead of a time-window JOIN and doesn't 
emit any resutls. (FYI interest, after executing the query, I convert the Table 
back to a stream via tEnv.toAppendStream and I use Flink 1.8.0 for tests). 

My questions are now: 
1. How do I see if Flink treats my table result as a regular JOIN result or a 
time-bounded JOIN? 
2. What is the proper way to formulate my initial query, finding all matching 
events within the same tumbling window? 

Best regards 
Theo Diefenthal 

[1] [ 
https://de.slideshare.net/FlinkForward/flink-forward-berlin-2018-xingcan-cui-stream-join-in-flink-from-discrete-to-continuous-115374183
 | 
https://de.slideshare.net/FlinkForward/flink-forward-berlin-2018-xingcan-cui-stream-join-in-flink-from-discrete-to-continuous-115374183
 ] Slide 18 




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