Hi Tony,

yes, when taking a savepoint  the same strategy as the during a
non-incremental checkpoint is used.

Best,

Konstantin

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:29 AM Tony Wei <tony19920...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Konstantin,
>
> That is really helpful. Thanks.
>
> Another follow-up question: The document said "Cleanup in full
> snapshot" is not applicable for
> the incremental checkpointing in the RocksDB state backend. However, when
> user manually
> trigger a savepoint and restart job from it, the expired states should be
> clean up as well based
> on Flink 1.6's implementation. Am I right?
>
> Best,
> Tony Wei
>
> Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com> 於 2019年3月9日 週六 上午7:00寫道:
>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> before Flink 1.8 expired state is only cleaned up, when you try to access
>> it after expiration, i.e. when user code tries to access the expired state,
>> the state value is cleaned and "null" is returned. There was also already
>> the option to clean up expired state during full snapshots (
>> https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6460). With Flink 1.8 expired state
>> is cleaned up continuously in the background regardless of checkpointing or
>> any attempt to access it after expiration.
>>
>> As a reference the linked JIRA tickets should be a good starting point.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Konstantin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 10:45 AM Tony Wei <tony19920...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I read the Flink 1.8 release notes about state [1], and it said
>>>
>>> *Continuous incremental cleanup of old Keyed State with TTL*
>>>> We introduced TTL (time-to-live) for Keyed state in Flink 1.6 (
>>>> FLINK-9510 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9510>). This
>>>> feature allowed to clean up and make inaccessible keyed state entries when
>>>> accessing them. In addition state would now also being cleaned up when
>>>> writing a savepoint/checkpoint.
>>>> Flink 1.8 introduces continous cleanup of old entries for both the
>>>> RocksDB state backend (FLINK-10471
>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10471>) and the heap
>>>> state backend (FLINK-10473
>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10473>). This means that
>>>> old entries (according to the ttl setting) are continously being cleanup 
>>>> up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with TTL's implementation in Flink 1.6 and what new
>>> features introduced in Flink
>>> 1.8. I don't understand what difference between these two release
>>> version after reading the
>>> release notes. Did they change the outcome of TTL feature, or provide
>>> new TTL features, or just
>>> change the behavior of executing TTL mechanism.
>>>
>>> Could you give me more references to learn about it? A simple example
>>> to illustrate it is more
>>> appreciated. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Tony Wei
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/release-notes/flink-1.8.html#state
>>>
>>
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