Thank you Addison and Ravi for the detailed info. Hi Addison, it sounds like StreamingFileSink is promising and will be available in Flink 1.7. From the mailing list, it looks like Flink 1.7 RC is now available for use.
Some questions for you... in your use case, is your source Kafka and is the Flink app running high parallelism (>300)? Are you able to run with StreamingFileSink to S3 for multiple days without failure? When using StreamingFileSink, what type of configuration did you use? Thank you. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, November 5, 2018 8:23 AM, Addison Higham <addis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there, > > This is going to be a bit of a long post, but I think there has been a lot of > confusion around S3, so I am going to go over everything I know in hopes that > helps. > > As mentioned by Rafi, The BucketingSink does not work for file systems like > S3, as the bucketing sink makes some assumptions that are incorrect for > eventually consistent file systems as well as for file systems that don't > have certain atomic operations, which leads to inconsistency (see > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-6306). This has been poorly > documented in the docs, so I think a lot of people have tried to use s3 only > to face issues. There is a plan for moving forward however. > > However, that plan does NOT include "fixing" the BucketingSink. Instead, a > new API - the StreamingFileSink - is the replacement for BucketingSink, which > was first introduced in Flink 1.6 is planned to (eventually) fix the problem. > The first release of StreamingFileSink in the 1.6 branch didn't support S3. > This was originally seen as a bug that would be fixed in Flink 1.6.2, > however, once all the work was done to add support for S3, it seems it was > decided not to backport the fix (see this thread: > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/FLINK-9752-s3-recoverable-writer-not-actually-fixed-in-1-6-2-td24925.html). > This means that flink 1.6.2 does NOT fix the S3 issue, but the fix will be > included in 1.7, which is currently in feature freeze and will hopefully have > an RC in the next couple of weeks. > > But yes, if you need S3 support ASAP, you are in a bit of a pickle. My team > is in that situation, so this the options as we saw them: > > 0. Wait for flink 1.7 > 1. Run and build your own flink from master or flink-1.7 branches which has > support for S3 and StreamingFileSink > 2. Write our own custom sink for s3 (probably with some caveats) > 3. Backport the changes into flink 1.6 > > We really didn't want to wait for 1.7, as that would make our delivery > timeline not great. We didn't love the idea of running a fun unreleased > version of flink in production either. As we looked into writing something > ourselves, it became clear > pretty quick that we could fairly easily get an output sink to a file that > would be at-least-once delivery to a file, but exactly-once delivery would be > significantly more difficult. That is actually okay for our use case, but we > decided we would rather not have to > revisit this later on and change all the code and then run a one-off job to > remove dupes. Instead, we decided to backport the changes into 1.6 branch. > Luckily, we already build our own flink, so we had that tooling already. The > backport took a few hours (it was fairly complicated to get all the changes), > but we seem to got everything > working. The backport is here: > https://github.com/instructure/flink/tree/s3_recover_backport. Our plan is to > use that backport until 1.7 is stable, then we can upgrade without > (hopefully) having to change any code. We still recognize there is a > possibility for bugs in the backport, but > for us that is mitigated by the fact that we are okay with at-least-once and > if all else fails, we have a period of transition where we have this data > being written in another location we can fall back to. > > So yeah, to reiterate, no out-of-the-box S3 stuff works ATM, but that should > hopefully be fixed *soon*. If you can wait, that is the easiest, if you > can't, building either your own custom sink or your own flink with the > backport isn't a terrible option. > > Hope that helps! > > Adddison > > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 3:09 AM Flink Developer <developer...@protonmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Ravi, some questions: >> >> - Is this using Flink 1.6.2 with dependencies (flink-s3-fs-hadoop, >> flink-statebackend-rocksdb, hadoop-common, hadoop-aws, hadoop-hdfs, >> hadoop-common) ? If so, could you please share your dependency versioning? >> - Does this use a kafka source with high flink parallelism (~400) for all >> kafka partitions and does it run continuously for several days? >> - Could you please share your checkpoint interval configuration, batch file >> size, batch rollover interval configuration, and sink prefix (s3:// , >> s3a://) >> >> Thank you >> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >> On Saturday, November 3, 2018 7:18 AM, Ravi Bhushan Ratnakar >> <ravibhushanratna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have done little changes in BucketingSink and implemented as new >>> CustomBucketingSink to use in my project which works fine with s3 and s3a >>> protocol. This implementation doesn't require xml file configuration, >>> rather than it uses configuration provided using flink configuration object >>> by calling setConfig method of BucketingSink. >>> >>> On Sat 3 Nov, 2018, 09:24 Flink Developer <developer...@protonmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It seems the issue also appears when using Flink version 1.6.2 . >>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 10:26 PM, Flink Developer >>>> <developer...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, thanks for the info Rafi, that seems to be related. I hope Flink >>>>> version 1.6.2 fixes this. Has anyone encountered this before? >>>>> >>>>> I would also like to note that my jar includes a core-site.xml file that >>>>> uses *s3a*. Is this the recommended configuration to use with >>>>> BucketingSink? Should the sink be specified using >>>>> s3a://<bucket>/<prefix> or s3://<bucket>/<prefix> ? >>>>> >>>>> - <configuration> >>>>> - <property> >>>>> - <name>fs.s3.impl</name> >>>>> - <value>org.apache.hadoop.fs.s3a.S3AFileSystem</value> >>>>> - </property> >>>>> - <property> >>>>> - <name>fs.s3a.buffer.dir</name> >>>>> - <value>/tmp</value> >>>>> - </property> >>>>> - <property> >>>>> - <name>fs.s3a.access.key</name> >>>>> - <value>xxxxx</value> >>>>> - </property> >>>>> - <property> >>>>> - <name>fs.s3a.secret.key</name> >>>>> - <value>xxxxx</value> >>>>> - </property> >>>>> - <property> >>>>> - <name>fs.s3a.buffer.dir</name> >>>>> - <value>/tmp</value> >>>>> - </property> >>>>> - </configuration> >>>>> >>>>> And my pom.xml uses: >>>>> >>>>> - <artifactId>flink-s3-fs-hadoop</artifactId> >>>>> - ... >>>>> - <artifactId>flink-statebackend-rocksdb_2.11</artifactId> >>>>> - ... >>>>> - <artifactId>hadoop-hdfs</artifactId> >>>>> - ... >>>>> - <artifactId>hadoop-common</artifactId> >>>>> - ... >>>>> - <artifactId>hadoop-core</artifactId> >>>>> - ... >>>>> - <artifactId>hadoop-aws</artifactId> >>>>> - ... >>>>> >>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >>>>> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 8:08 AM, Rafi Aroch <rafi.ar...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm also experiencing this with Flink 1.5.2. This is probably related to >>>>>> BucketingSink not working properly with S3 as filesystem because of the >>>>>> eventual-consistency of S3. >>>>>> >>>>>> I see that https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9752 will be part >>>>>> of 1.6.2 release. It might help, if you use the flink-s3-fs-hadoop (and >>>>>> not presto). >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know if this fix would solve this issue? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Rafi >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:08 AM Flink Developer >>>>>> <developer...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, I'm running a scala flink app in an AWS EMR cluster (emr 5.17, >>>>>>> hadoop 2.8.4) with flink parallelization set to 400. The source is a >>>>>>> Kafka topic and sinks to S3 in the format of: >>>>>>> s3://<day>/<hour>/<worker_number>/<files>. There's potentially 400 >>>>>>> files writing simultaneously. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Configuration: >>>>>>> - Flink v1.5.2 >>>>>>> - Checkpointing enabled w/ RocksDb (flink-statebackend-rocksdb_2.11, >>>>>>> v1.6.1). Interval is every 2 mins with max concurrent set to 1. Min >>>>>>> pause between checkpoints in 2 mins. Timeout is set to 2 mins. >>>>>>> - BucketingSink (flink-connector-filesystem_2.11, v1.6.1). >>>>>>> - Batch file size is set to 5mb. >>>>>>> - Batch rollover interval is set to 30min >>>>>>> - Writer uses GZip compression >>>>>>> - Hadoop Maven Dependencies (hadoop-hdfs v3.1.1, hadoop-common v3.1.1, >>>>>>> hadoop-core v1.2.1, hadoop-aws v3.1.1) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The app is able to run for hours straight, but occasionally (once or >>>>>>> twice a day), it displays the following exception. When this happens, >>>>>>> the app is able to recover from previous checkpoint, but I am concerned >>>>>>> about the exception: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Caused by: java.io.IOException: >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.services.s3.model.AmazonS3Exception: >>>>>>> Not Found (Service: Amazon S3; Status Code 404; Error ... Request ID: >>>>>>> xxxxxxxx, S3 Extended Request ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.s3n.Jets3tNativeFileSystemStore.handleAmazonServiceException(Jets3tNativeFileSystemStore.java:446) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.s3n.Jets3tNativeFileSystemStore.copy(Jets3tNativeFileSystemStore.java:427) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.s3n.S3NativeFileSystem.rename(S3NativeFileSystem.java:1297) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.EmrFileSystem.rename(EmrFileSystem.java:312) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.fs.bucketing.BucketingSink.handlePendingInProgressFile(BucketingSink.java:815) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Caused by: >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.services.s3.model.AmazonS3Exception: >>>>>>> Not Found (Service: Amazon S3; Status Code 404; Error ... Request ID: >>>>>>> xxxxxxxx, S3 Extended Request ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.handleErrorResponse(AmazonHttpClient.java:1632) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.executeOneRequest(AmazonHttpClient.java:1304) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.executeHelper(AmazonHttpClient.java:1058) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.doExecute(AmazonHttpClient.java:743) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.executeWithTimer(AmazonHttpClient.java:717) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.execute(AmazonHttpClient.java:699) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutor.access$500(AmazonHttpClient.java:667) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient$RequestExecutionBuilderImpl.execute(AmazonHttpClient.java:649) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.http.AmazonHttpClient.execute(AmazonHttpClient.java:513) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.services.s3.AmazonS3Client.invoke(AmazonS3Client.java:4365) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.services.s3.AmazonS3Client.invoke(AmazonS3Client.java:4312) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.shaded.com.amazonaws.services.s3.AmazonS3Client.getObjectMetadata(AmazonS3Client.java:1270) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.s3.lite.call.GetObjectMetadataCall.perform(GetObjectMetadataCall.java:22) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.s3.lite.call.GetObjectMetadataCall.perform(GetObjectMetadataCall.java:8) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> com.amazon.ws.emr.hadoop.fs.s3.lite.executor.GlobalS3Exxecutor.execute(GlobalS3Executor.java:91) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And sometimes, it will show this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - java.lang.RuntimeException: Error while restoring BucketingSink state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.fs.bucketing.BucketingSink.handlePendingInProgressFile(BucketingSink.java:888) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.fs.bucketing.BucketingSink.handleRestoredBucketState(BucketingSink.java:767) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.fs.bucketing.BucketingSink.initializeState(BucketingSink.java:394) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.util.functions.StreamingFunctionUtils.tryRestoreFunction(StreamingFunctionUtils.java:178) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.util.functions.StreamingFunctionUtils.restoreFunctionState(StreamingFunctionUtils.java:160) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.AbstractUdfStreamOperator.initializeState(AbstractUdfStreamOperator.java:96) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.AbstractStreamOperator.initializeState(AbstractStreamOperator.java:254) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.StreamTask.initializeState(StreamTask.java:730) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.StreamTask.invoke(StreamTask.java:295) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - at org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.Task.run(Task.java:703) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What causes this and how can it be resolved? Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There seems to be a related Flink ticket and PR here, but I'm not sure >>>>>>> if this is the exact same issue and if it has been resolved: >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-6306 >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/3752 >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/4607
