Hi Juho,

We use REST client API : triggerSavepoint(), this API returns a
CompletableFuture, then we call it's get() API.

You can understand that I am waiting for it to complete in sync.
Because cancelWithSavepoint is actually waiting for savepoint to complete
synchronization, and then execute the cancel command.

We do not use CLI. I think since you are through the CLI, you can observe
whether the savepoint is complete by combining the log or the web UI.

Thanks, vino.


Juho Autio <juho.au...@rovio.com> 于2018年8月9日周四 下午3:07写道:

> Thanks for the suggestion. Is the separate savepoint triggering async?
> Would you then separately poll for the savepoint's completion before
> executing cancel? If additional polling is needed, then I would say that
> for my purpose it's still easier to call cancel with savepoint and simply
> ignore the result of the call. I would assume that it won't do any harm if
> I keep retrying cancel with savepoint until the job stops – I expect that
> an overlapping cancel request is ignored if the job is already creating a
> savepoint. Please correct if my assumption is wrong.
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:04 AM vino yang <yanghua1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Juho,
>>
>> This problem does exist, I suggest you separate these two steps to
>> temporarily deal with this problem:
>> 1) Trigger Savepoint separately;
>> 2) execute the cancel command;
>>
>> Hi Till, Chesnay:
>>
>> Our internal environment and multiple users on the mailing list have
>> encountered similar problems.
>>
>> In our environment, it seems that JM shows that the save point is
>> complete and JM has stopped itself, but the client will still connect to
>> the old JM and report a timeout exception.
>>
>> Thanks, vino.
>>
>>
>> Juho Autio <juho.au...@rovio.com> 于2018年8月8日周三 下午9:18写道:
>>
>>> I was trying to cancel a job with savepoint, but the CLI command failed
>>> with "akka.pattern.AskTimeoutException: Ask timed out".
>>>
>>> The stack trace reveals that ask timeout is 10 seconds:
>>>
>>> Caused by: akka.pattern.AskTimeoutException: Ask timed out on
>>> [Actor[akka://flink/user/jobmanager_0#106635280]] after [10000 ms].
>>> Sender[null] sent message of type
>>> "org.apache.flink.runtime.rpc.messages.LocalFencedMessage".
>>>
>>> Indeed it's documented that the default value for akka.ask.timeout="10
>>> s" in
>>>
>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/ops/config.html#distributed-coordination-via-akka
>>>
>>> Behind the scenes the savepoint creation & job cancellation succeeded,
>>> that was to be expected, kind of. So my problem is just getting a proper
>>> response back from the CLI call instead of timing out so eagerly.
>>>
>>> To be exact, what I ran was:
>>>
>>> flink-1.5.2/bin/flink cancel b7c7d19d25e16a952d3afa32841024e5 -m
>>> yarn-cluster -yid application_1533676784032_0001 --withSavepoint
>>>
>>> Should I change the akka.ask.timeout to have a longer timeout? If yes,
>>> can I override it just for the CLI call somehow? Maybe it might have
>>> undesired side-effects if set globally for the actual flink jobs to use?
>>>
>>> What about akka.client.timeout? The default for it is also rather
>>> low: "60 s". Should it also be increased accordingly if I want to accept
>>> longer than 60 s for savepoint creation?
>>>
>>> Finally, that default timeout is so low that I would expect this to be a
>>> common problem. I would say that Flink CLI should have higher default
>>> timeout for cancel and savepoint creation ops.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>

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