@Richter: Are you aware of any per-key state size performance implications?


Am 03.04.18 um 16:56 schrieb au.fp2018:
Thanks Timo/LiYue, your responses were helpful.

I was worried about the network shuffle with the second keyBy. The first
keyBy is indeed evenly spreading the load across the nodes. As I mentioned
my concern was around the amount of state in each key. Maybe I am trying to
optimize pre-maturely here.

My follow-up question is: How much state per key is considered big thus
causing performance overheads? If I am within this limit after the first
keyBy I wouldn't need the second keyBy and thus prevent the network shuffle.

Thanks,
Arun


Timo Walther wrote
Hi Andre,

every keyBy is a shuffle over the network and thus introduces some
overhead. Esp. serialization of records between operators if object
reuse is disabled by default. If you think that not all slots (and thus
all nodes) are not fully occupied evenly in the first keyBy operation
(e.g. if you key space is just 2 values) than it makes sense to have a
second keyBy to do the heavy computation on the more granular key to
have as much parallelism as possible. It really depends on your job.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Timo


Am 03.04.18 um 03:22 schrieb 李玥:
Hello,
In my opinion , it would be meaningful only on this situation:
1. The total size of all your stats is huge enough, e.g. 1GB+.
2. Splitting  you job to multiple KeyBy process would reduce the size
of your stats.

Because operation of saving stats is synchronized and all working
threads are blocked until the saving stats operation finished.
Our team is trying to make the process of saving stats async, plz
refer to :
http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Slow-flink-checkpoint-td18946.html

LiYue
http://tig.jd.com

liyue2008@


在 2018年4月3日,上午8:30,au.fp2018 <
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>> 写道:
Hello Flink Community,

I am relatively new to Flink. In the project I am currently working
on I've
a dataflow with a keyBy() operator, which I want to convert to
dataflow with
multiple keyBy() operators like this:


  Source -->
  KeyBy() -->
  Stateful process() function that generates a more granular key -->
  KeyBy(
<id generated in the previous step>
) -->
  More stateful computation(s) -->
  Sink

Are there any downsides to this approach?
My reasoning behind the second keyBy() is to reduce the amount of
state and
hence improve the processing speed.

Thanks,
Andre




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