Hi Jeff,

As Stephan said the interpretation of the timestamps is up to the logic of your 
job.
And as for the documentation, thanks for reporting this. 
We should update it.

Cheers,
Kostas

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> @Jeff - good point about the docs.
> 
> I think Kostas is right though - the event timestamps are up to the user's 
> interpretation.
> 
> The built-in window assigners interpret them as "Unix Epoch Millis", but you 
> can define your own window assigners that interpret the timestamps 
> differently.
> The system interprets them as also as Unix Epoch Millis when mixing event 
> time and processing time (because processing time comes from 
> System.currentTimeMillis())
> 
> So, you can "re-interpret" them by using custom window assigners and not 
> using processing time.
> If you want to use a processing time like component, I'd suggest to 
> incorporate that in your watermark generator.
> 
> Stephan
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:05 PM, jeff jacobson <jeff.harold.jacob...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jeff.harold.jacob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks Kostas. So if we're comfortable treating timestamps as longs (and 
> doing conversions to human readable time at our application level), we can 
> use CEP, ML lib etc. in addition to all basic Flink functions? That's great 
> news?
> 
> To Matthias's point, why then does the following not read "Both timestamps 
> and watermarks are specified as longs"? Before I go headlong into developing 
> on Flink, I just want to be sure I'm covered here. Again, thanks. (The 
> Youtube videos from FlinkForward are also great, btw. Incredibly impressed 
> with Data Artisans.)
> 
> 
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.1/apis/streaming/event_timestamps_watermarks.html#assigning-timestamps
>  
> <https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.1/apis/streaming/event_timestamps_watermarks.html#assigning-timestamps>
> 
> "Both timestamps and watermarks are specified as milliseconds since the Java 
> epoch of 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z."
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Kostas Kloudas <k.klou...@data-artisans.com 
> <mailto:k.klou...@data-artisans.com>> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Actually in Flink timestamps are simple longs.
> This means that you can assign anything you want as a timestamp, as long as 
> it fits in a long.
> 
> Hope this helps and if not, we can discuss to see if we can find a solution 
> that 
> fits your needs together.
> 
> Cheers,
> Kostas
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, jeff jacobson <jeff.harold.jacob...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jeff.harold.jacob...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow. Really? Is there a way to do micros? A hack? A Jira story? Most (all?) 
>> U.S. equity and European futures, options, and stock markets timestamp in 
>> microseconds. This makes Flink unusable for a massive industry vertical. To 
>> the extent lower-frequency time-series data is being used (e.g. end of data 
>> prices), stream processing is kind of overkill. Love everything I've read 
>> about Flink...there's got to be a way to make this work, no?
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org 
>> <mailto:mj...@apache.org>> wrote:
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>> Oh. My bad... Did not read your question carefully enough.
>> 
>> Than the answer is no, it does not support microseconds (only
>> milliseconds).
>> 
>> - -Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/4/16 2:22 PM, jeff jacobson wrote:
>> > Sorry if I'm missing something. That link mentions milliseconds,
>> > no? My question is whether or not I can specify microseconds where
>> > 1000microseconds = 1millisecond. Thanks!
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org 
>> > <mailto:mj...@apache.org>
>> > <mailto:mj...@apache.org <mailto:mj...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes. It does.
>> >
>> > See:
>> > https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.1/apis/strea
>> ming/event_timestamps_watermarks.html#assigning-timestamps 
>> <https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.1/apis/streaming/event_timestamps_watermarks.html#assigning-timestamps>
>> >
>> >
>> <https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.1/apis/stream
>> ing/event_timestamps_watermarks.html#assigning-timestamps 
>> <https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.1/apis/streaming/event_timestamps_watermarks.html#assigning-timestamps>>
>> >
>> > "Both timestamps and watermarks are specified as millliseconds
>> > since the Java epoch of 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Matthias
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/04/2016 10:57 AM, jeff jacobson wrote:
>> >> I've sourced stackoverflow, the docs, and the web but I can't
>> >> figure out: does flink support microsecond timestamp resolution?
>> >> Thanks!
>> >
>> >
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