Looking into the logs of each TM it only took about 5 seconds per TM to go
from "Trying to register" to "Successful registration".

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Robert Schmidtke <ro.schmid...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I recently switched from running Flink on YARN to running Flink Standalone
> and I realized I had to add a sleep after ./start-cluster.sh (well, my
> Slurm adaptation of it). I did not have to explicitly wait before since
> Flink would wait until all YARN containers became available, so to be
> honest I don't know whether this is new or not. I just looked into an old
> log (well, from last Friday) and it took about 1 minute for 31 TMs to
> connect to 1 JM. They each had -Xms and -Xmx6079m though.
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Is that a new observation that it takes so long, or has it always taken
>> so long?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Robert Schmidtke <ro.schmid...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I figured the JM would be waiting for the TMs. Each of my nodes has 64G
>>> of memory available.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>
>>>> During startup, the task manager allocates the entire managed memory.
>>>>
>>>> From the log:
>>>> 17:03:33,554 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>>           - Using 0.7 of the currently free heap space for Flink
>>>> managed heap memory (34395 MB).
>>>>
>>>> It seems like you are allocating almost 35 GB of memory which might
>>>> take a bit (40 seconds still seems like too much time). What
>>>> configuration did you use for the task managers? Do you really have
>>>> that much memory or is your system swapping?
>>>>
>>>> I think the JobManager just appears to take a long time because the
>>>> TaskManagers register late.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Robert Schmidtke <
>>>> ro.schmid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm wondering about the startup times of the TMs:
>>>> >
>>>> > ...
>>>> > 17:03:33,255 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Starting TaskManager actor
>>>> > 17:03:33,262 INFO
>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.netty.NettyConfig
>>>> > - NettyConfig [server address: cumu02-05/130.73.144.64, server port:
>>>> 45731,
>>>> > memory segment size (bytes): 32768, transport type: NIO, number of
>>>> server
>>>> > threads: 0 (use Netty's default), number of client threads: 0 (use
>>>> Netty's
>>>> > default), server connect backlog: 0 (use Netty's default), client
>>>> connect
>>>> > timeout (sec): 120, send/receive buffer size (bytes): 0 (use Netty's
>>>> > default)]
>>>> > 17:03:33,266 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Messages between TaskManager and JobManager have a max timeout of
>>>> 100000
>>>> > milliseconds
>>>> > 17:03:33,268 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Temporary file directory '/tmp': total 44 GB, usable 37 GB (84.09%
>>>> usable)
>>>> > 17:03:33,295 INFO
>>>> > org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.buffer.NetworkBufferPool  -
>>>> Allocated 64
>>>> > MB for network buffer pool (number of memory segments: 2048, bytes per
>>>> > segment: 32768).
>>>> > 17:03:33,554 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Using 0.7 of the currently free heap space for Flink managed heap
>>>> memory
>>>> > (34395 MB).
>>>> >
>>>> > // almost 40 seconds //
>>>> >
>>>> > 17:04:12,445 INFO
>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.io.disk.iomanager.IOManager
>>>> > - I/O manager uses directory
>>>> > /tmp/flink-io-922d9bf4-254e-41e7-b151-525157cd5bfe for spill files.
>>>> > 17:04:12,455 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.filecache.FileCache
>>>> > - User file cache uses directory
>>>> > /tmp/flink-dist-cache-792cf7f2-e2be-4950-a39f-d7a21326f054
>>>> > 17:04:12,617 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Starting TaskManager actor at
>>>> akka://flink/user/taskmanager#1341641688.
>>>> > 17:04:12,617 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - TaskManager data connection information: cumu02-05.zib.de
>>>> (dataPort=45731)
>>>> > 17:04:12,618 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - TaskManager has 16 task slot(s).
>>>> > 17:04:12,618 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Memory usage stats: [HEAP: 35502/49216/49216 MB, NON HEAP:
>>>> 25/52/214 MB
>>>> > (used/committed/max)]
>>>> > 17:04:12,623 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Trying to register at JobManager
>>>> > akka.tcp://flink@130.73.144.59:6123/user/jobmanager (attempt 1,
>>>> timeout: 500
>>>> > milliseconds)
>>>> > 17:04:12,773 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager
>>>> > - Successful registration at JobManager
>>>> > (akka.tcp://flink@130.73.144.59:6123/user/jobmanager), starting
>>>> network
>>>> > stack and library cache.
>>>> > ...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > The same goes for the JM (obviously).
>>>> >
>>>> > ...
>>>> > 17:03:31,632 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmanager.JobManager
>>>> > - Starting JobManger web frontend
>>>> > 17:03:31,636 INFO
>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmanager.web.WebInfoServer
>>>> > - Setting up web info server, using web-root directory
>>>> >
>>>> jar:file:/nfs/csr/bzcschmi/flink/flink-dist/target/flink-0.10-SNAPSHOT-bin/flink-0.10-SNAPSHOT/lib/flink-dist-0.10-SNAPSHOT.jar!/web-docs-infoserver.
>>>> > 17:03:31,753 INFO  org.eclipse.jetty.util.log
>>>> > - jetty-0.10-SNAPSHOT
>>>> > 17:03:31,806 INFO  org.eclipse.jetty.util.log
>>>> > - Started SelectChannelConnector@0.0.0.0:8081
>>>> > 17:03:31,806 INFO
>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmanager.web.WebInfoServer
>>>> > - Started web info server for JobManager on 0.0.0.0:8081
>>>> >
>>>> > // almost 35 seconds //
>>>> >
>>>> > 17:04:05,091 INFO  org.apache.flink.runtime.instance.InstanceManager
>>>> > - Registered TaskManager at cumu02-02
>>>> > (akka.tcp://flink@130.73.144.61:53549/user/taskmanager) as
>>>> > e5ae92397a912c7360524524cf2d172a. Current number of registered hosts
>>>> is 1.
>>>> > Current number of alive task slots is 16.
>>>> > ...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Is this to be expected? Any ideas what's happening in the meantime?
>>>> I'm
>>>> > asking because I'm running into errors when submitting my job too
>>>> early (and
>>>> > not enough TMs have connected).
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> > Robert
>>>> >
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