Let me try to think how to better present my point. I'll try to get back in a 
few days.

On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Joe Baldwin wrote:

> Andrus,
> 
> I am pretty smart, but I have NO idea what you just said, :)   I would really 
> like to understand your argument as it sounds like something that might be 
> important to my project.  Do you have an analysis somewhere I read up on this?
> 
> Thanks
> Joe
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Durchholz, Joachim wrote:
>> 
>>>> Thanks for explaining. If this is so, it sounds... unscalable.
>>> 
>>> How so? 
>> 
>> You have to inflate your cache anew from DB in every transaction. You don't 
>> have any data when you start.
>> 
>> However I don't think you are right in your assessment. Googling "Hibernate 
>> second level cache" shows that its scope goes beyond a single session. And 
>> hence my original question - how do they reconcile second level cache 
>> presence and the promise of 100% data consistency. My answer is that they 
>> don't. So their bigger argument about data consistency is moot.
>> 
>> Andrus
>> 
> 
> 

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