2007/3/14, Borut Bolčina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello! 2007/3/14, jerome moliere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi Andrus, > what a good question -) > Maven is quite a dream, the idea is perfect, its powerful and quite easy > to > use... > But it can be a nightmare while trying to make serious unit tests, please > refer to the Cocoon build notes for pleasant notes, or find the blog from > my > friend Stephane Bailliez member from the Joost team where he deals with > this > subject... Joost seems to keep an old solution based on ANT + Ivy ..Works > well... From what I read (it took me a while), I feel that Stephane will always be on the rebel side (star wars) or in opposition (politics).
not so sure , example given he loves windows -) I am sure he has
more experience than me in Maven 2 philosophy.
In fact I just want to warn a big problem (like the cocoon members wrote in their build notes) it seems that Maven has some strange behaviours, very dispappointing when using continuus integration you may see several alerts (by mail) then one report telling that everything is ok..you changed nothing in your code and a test stops failing... Problem is clearly not about philosophy, because the idea is very interesting, convention over configuration is an evident idea...Everybody prefers convention over tons from xml code isn't it ? But until I learn something
better to manage corporate artifact dependencies (and 3rd party for that matter), I will continue to learn Maven. I do have a tough skin. I will look at Ivy also, I am not a religious person.
Ivy makes it easy for a while now...(I know this tool since 3 years ), you don't have to throw your ANT knowledge to be familiar with a new technology.. No other comments...
> Oops just a small one, running after the latest release of any library in > the Maven repositories is quite boring, Spring 2 M 4 is available but not > final release, Hibernate 3.2 but not 3.2.1 or 3.2.2... Installing manually > jars on local repositories is a feature but should be quite rare while its > permanent... Not quite true. Look at http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework/spring <dependency> <groupId>org.springframework</groupId> <artifactId>spring</artifactId> <version>2.0.3</version> </dependency> You just have to know the right groupId. Same for Hibernate. The above search site can help. Manually installing/deploying a jar is a 20 seconds process. I see no down thumbs in that. A correctly laid out corporate repository (Artifactory) might help - I am still looking at options. Having no big projects experience with Maven I can not judge. Personally, I will walk down the M street for a while - I hope it is not a one way ;-)
your pointer is interesting (thanks) but I just want to say that these dependencies problems are quite from the packages stability while installing software on Unix machine, dependencies, bad packages configuration and you can reinstall your box...I don't have time to loose with finding the good package in the good release I was an ubuntu enthusiast since 3 years but since several packages dependencies made by aliens I decided to switch all my machines to solaris...While working on quite large projects I don't want to waste time with minor problems.. My 2 cents Jerome -- Jerome Moliere - Mentor/J http://romjethoughts.blogspot.com/ auteur Eyrolles
