Adding sleep to solve racing conditions is a bad practice, and should be avoided if possible. Instead, use read and write CL that guarantees strong consistency when it is required/needed.

On 09/08/2022 23:49, Jim Shaw wrote:
Raphael:
   Have you found  root cause ? If not, here are a few tips, based on what I experienced before, but may not  be same as your case, just hope it is helpful.
1) app side called wrong code module

get the cql from system.prepared_statements

cql statement is helpful to developers to search their code and find issue parts. In my case,  was function disabled but actually not, when they see cql statement, they realized.

2) app side code query immediately after write

from the trace, you have read time,  get this row write time by

select writetime ("any non-key column here") from "table_name_here" where ...;

if read time is too close to write time,  ask developers to add a sleep in code.

while earlier phase of projects using cassandra, developers still get used to rdbms style, forget cassandra is distributed database (i.e. in code, 10 cql statements in a logic order, they assume they will be executed in order, but actually in distributed system, no order, last line in code may execute 1st in cassandra cluster).

3) duplicate the case
use copy tables, testing data, by comparing the traces, duplicate the case, so know your debug direction right or not right.


Regards,


Jim

On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 5:14 PM Stéphane Alleaume <crystallo...@gmail.com> wrote:

    You're right too, this option is not new, sorry.

    Is this option can be useful ?


    Le dim. 7 août 2022, 22:18, Bowen Song via user
    <user@cassandra.apache.org> a écrit :

        Do you mean "nodetool settraceprobability"? This is not
        exactly new, I remember it was available on Cassandra 2.x.

        On 07/08/2022 20:43, Stéphane Alleaume wrote:
        I think perhaps you already know but i read you can now trace
        only a % of all queries, i will look to retrieve the name of
        this fonctionnality (in new Cassandra release).

        Hope it will help
        Kind regards
        Stéphane


        Le dim. 7 août 2022, 20:26, Raphael Mazelier
        <r...@futomaki.net> a écrit :

            > "Read repair is in the blocking read path for the
            query, yep"

            OK interesting. This is not what I understood from the
            documentation. And I use localOne level consistency.

            I enabled tracing (see in the attachment of my first
            msg)/ but I didn't see read repair in the trace (and btw
            I tried to completely disable it on my table setting both
            read_repair_chance and local_dc_read_repair_chance to 0).

            The problem when enabling trace in cqlsh is that I only
            get slow result. For having fast answer I need to iterate
            faster on my queries.

            I can provide again trace for analysis. I got something
            more readable in python.

            Best,

            --

            Raphael


            On 07/08/2022 19:30, C. Scott Andreas wrote:
            > but still as I understand the documentation the read
            repair should not be in the blocking path of a query ?

            Read repair is in the blocking read path for the query,
            yep. At quorum consistency levels, the read repair must
            complete before returning a result to the client to
            ensure the data returned would be visible on subsequent
            reads that address the remainder of the quorum.

            If you enable tracing - either for a single CQL
            statement that is expected to be slow, or probabilistic
            from the server side to catch a slow query in the act -
            that will help identify what’s happening.

            - Scott

            On Aug 7, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Raphael Mazelier
            <r...@futomaki.net> <mailto:r...@futomaki.net> wrote:

            

            Nope. And what really puzzle me is in the trace we
            really show the difference between queries. The fast
            queries only request read from one replicas, while slow
            queries request from multiple replicas (and not only
            local to the dc).

            On 07/08/2022 14:02, Stéphane Alleaume wrote:
            Hi

            Is there some GC which could affect coordinarir node ?

            Kind regards
            Stéphane

            Le dim. 7 août 2022, 13:41, Raphael Mazelier
            <r...@futomaki.net> a écrit :

                Thanks for the answer but I was well aware of
                this. I use localOne as consistency level.

                My client connect to a local seeds, then choose a
                local coordinator (as far I can understand the
                trace log).

                Then for a batch of request I got approximately
                98% of request treated in 2/3ms in local DC with
                one read request, and 2% treated by many nodes
                (according to the trace) and then way longer (250ms).

                ?

                On 06/08/2022 14:30, Bowen Song via user wrote:

                See the diagram below. Your problem almost
                certainly arises from step 4, in which an
                incorrect consistency level set by the client
                caused the coordinator node to send the READ
                command to nodes in other DCs.

                The load balancing policy only affects step 2 and
                3, not step 1 or 4.

                You should change the consistency level to
                LOCAL_ONE/LOCAL_QUORUM/etc. to fix the problem.

                On 05/08/2022 22:54, Bowen Song wrote:
                The DCAwareRoundRobinPolicy/TokenAwareHostPolicy
                controlls which Cassandra coordinator node the
                client sends queries to, not the nodes it
                connects to, nor the nodes that performs the
                actual read.

                A client sends a CQL read query to a coordinator
                node, and the coordinator node parses the CQL
                query, and send READ requests to other nodes in
                the cluster based on the consistency level.

                Have you checked the consistency level of the
                session (and the query if applicable)? Is it
                prefixed with "LOCAL_"? If not, the coordinator
                will send the READ requests to non-local DCs.


                On 05/08/2022 19:40, Raphael Mazelier wrote:

                Hi Cassandra Users,

                I'm relatively new to Cassandra and first I
                have to say I'm really impressed by the
                technology.

                Good design and a lot of stuff to understand
                the underlying (the Oreilly book help a lot as
                well as thelastpickle blog post).

                I have an muli-datacenter c* cluster (US,
                Europe, Singapore) with eight node on each (two
                seeds on each region), two racks on Eu,
                Singapore, 3 on US. Everything deployed in AWS.

                We have a keyspace configured with network
                topology and two replicas on every region like
                this: {'class': 'NetworkTopologyStrategy',
                'ap-southeast-1': '2', 'eu-west-1': '2',
                'us-east-1': '2'}


                Investigating some performance issue I noticed
                strange things in my experiment:

                What we expect is very slow latency 3/5ms max
                for this specific select query. So we want
                every read to be local the each datacenter.

                We configure
                DCAwareRoundRobinPolicy(local_dc=DC) in python,
                and the same in Go
                gocql.TokenAwareHostPolicy(gocql.DCAwareRoundRobinPolicy("DC"))


                Testing a bit with two short program (I can
                provide them) in go and python I notice very
                strange result. Basically I do the same query
                over and over with a very limited dataset of id.

                The first result were surprising cause the very
                first query were always more than 250ms and
                after with stressing c* (playing with sleep
                between query) I can achieve a good ratio of
                query at 3/4 ms (what I expected).

                My guess was that long query were somewhat
                executed not locally (or at least imply multi
                datacenter queries) and short one no.

                Activating tracing in my program (like enalbing
                trace in cqlsh) kindla confirm my suspicion.

                (I will provide trace in attachment).

                My question is why sometime C* try to read not
                localy? how we can disable it? what is the
                criteria for this?

                (btw I'm very not fan of this multi region
                design for theses very specific kind of issues...)

                Also side question: why C* is so slow at
                connection? it's like it's trying to reach
                every nodes in each DC? (we only provide locals
                seeds however). Sometimes it take more than 20s...

                Any help appreciated.

                Best,

--
                Raphael Mazelier

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