Hi Cassandra Gurus,

Recently I captured a very interesting warning in the logs saying

2020-08-19 08:08:32.492 [cassandra-client-keytiles_data_webhits-nio-worker-2] WARN com.datastax.driver.core.RequestHandler - Query '[3 bound values] select * from visit_sess ion_by_start_time_v4 where container_id=? and first_action_time_frame_id >= ? and first_action_time_frame_id <= ?;' generated server side warning(s): *Read 6628 live rows and 6628 tombstone cells*for query SELECT * FROM keytiles_data_webhits.visit_session_by_start_time_v4 WHERE container_id = 5YzsPfE2Gcu8sd-76626 AND first_action_time_frame_id > 4 43837 AND first_action_time_frame_id <= 443670 AND user_agent_type > browser-mobile AND unique_webclient_id > 045d1683-c702-48bd-9d2b-dcf1ca87ac7c AND first_action_ts > 15978
15766 LIMIT 6628 (see tombstone_warn_threshold)

What makes this interesting to me is the fact we never issue not even row level deletes but any kind of deletes against this table for now So I'm wondering what can result in tombstone creation in Cassandra - apart from explicit DELETE queries and TTL setup...

My suspicion is (but I'm not sure) that as we are going with "select *" read strategy, then calculate everything in-memory, eventually writing back with kinda "update *" queries to Cassandra in this table (so not updating just a few columns but everything) can lead to these... Can it? I tried to search around this sympthom but was not successful - so decided to ask you guys maybe someone can give us a pointer...

Some more info:

 * the table does not have TTL set - this mechanism is turned off
 * the LIMIT param in upper query comes from paging size
 * we are using Cassandra4 alpha3
 * we also have a few similarly built tables where we follow the above
   described "update *" policy on write path - however those tables are
   counter tables... when we mass-read them into memory we also go with
   "select *" logic reading up tons of rows. The point is we never saw
   such a warning for these counter tables however we are handling them
   same fashion... ok counter tables work differently but still
   interesting to me why those never generated things like this

thanks!

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Attila Wind

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