Compaction settings:
```
compaction = {'class':
'org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.TimeWindowCompactionStrategy',
'compaction_window_size': '6', 'compaction_window_unit': 'HOURS',
'max_threshold': '32', 'min_threshold': '4'}
```
read_repair_chance is 0, and I don't do any repairs because (normally)
everything has a ttl. It does seem like Jeff is right that a manual
insert/update without a ttl is what caused this, so I know how to resolve
it and prevent it from happening again.

Thx again for all the help guys, I appreciate it!


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:21 PM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Repairs work fine with TWCS, but having a non-expiring row will prevent
> tombstones in newer sstables from being purged
>
> I suspect someone did a manual insert/update without a ttl and that
> effectively blocks all other expiring cells from being purged.
>
> --
> Jeff Jirsa
>
>
> On May 3, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Nick Hatfield <nick.hatfi...@metricly.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>
> If you will, share your compaction settings. More than likely, your issue
> is from 1 of 2 reasons:
> 1. You have read repair chance set to anything other than 0
>
> 2. You’re running repairs on the TWCS CF
>
>
>
> Or both….
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Torra [mailto:mto...@salesforce.com.INVALID
> <mto...@salesforce.com.INVALID>]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 03, 2019 3:00 PM
> *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: TWCS sstables not dropping even though all data is expired
>
>
>
> Thx for the help Paul - there are definitely some details here I still
> don't fully understand, but this helped me resolve the problem and know
> what to look for in the future :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM Paul Chandler <p...@redshots.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>
> For TWCS the sstable can only be deleted when all the data has expired in
> that sstable, but you had a record without a ttl in it, so that sstable
> could never be deleted.
>
>
>
> That bit is straight forward, the next bit I remember reading somewhere
> but can’t find it at the moment to confirm my thinking.
>
>
>
> An sstable can only be deleted if it is the earliest sstable. I think this
> is due to the fact that deleting later sstables may expose old versions of
> the data stored in the stuck sstable which had been superseded. For
> example, if there was a tombstone in a later sstable for the non TTLed
> record causing the problem in this instance. Then deleting that sstable
> would cause that deleted data to reappear. (Someone please correct me if I
> have this wrong)
>
>
>
> Because sstables in different time buckets are never compacted together,
> this problem only goes away when you did the major compaction.
>
>
>
> This would happen on all replicas of the data, hence the reason you this
> problem on 3 nodes.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> www.redshots.com
>
>
>
> On 3 May 2019, at 15:35, Mike Torra <mto...@salesforce.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
>
>
> This does indeed seem to be a problem of overlapping sstables, but I don't
> understand why the data (and number of sstables) just continues to grow
> indefinitely. I also don't understand why this problem is only appearing on
> some nodes. Is it just a coincidence that the one rogue test row without a
> ttl is at the 'root' sstable causing the problem (ie, from the output of
> `sstableexpiredblockers`)?
>
>
>
> Running a full compaction via `nodetool compact` reclaims the disk space,
> but I'd like to figure out why this happened and prevent it. Understanding
> why this problem would be isolated the way it is (ie only one CF even
> though I have a few others that share a very similar schema, and only some
> nodes) seems like it will help me prevent it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:00 PM Paul Chandler <p...@redshots.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>
> It sounds like that record may have been deleted, if that is the case then
> it would still be shown in this sstable, but the deleted tombstone record
> would be in a later sstable. You can use nodetool getsstables to work out
> which sstables contain the data.
>
>
>
> I recommend reading The Last Pickle post on this:
> http://thelastpickle.com/blog/2016/12/08/TWCS-part1.html the sections
> towards the bottom of this post may well explain why the sstable is not
> being deleted.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> www.redshots.com
>
>
>
> On 2 May 2019, at 16:08, Mike Torra <mto...@salesforce.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm pretty stumped by this, so here is some more detail if it helps.
>
>
>
> Here is what the suspicious partition looks like in the `sstabledump`
> output (some pii etc redacted):
>
> ```
>
> {
>
>     "partition" : {
>
>       "key" : [ "some_user_id_value", "user_id", "demo-test" ],
>
>       "position" : 210
>
>     },
>
>     "rows" : [
>
>       {
>
>         "type" : "row",
>
>         "position" : 1132,
>
>         "clustering" : [ "2019-01-22 15:27:45.000Z" ],
>
>         "liveness_info" : { "tstamp" : "2019-01-22T15:31:12.415081Z" },
>
>         "cells" : [
>
>           { "some": "data" }
>
>         ]
>
>       }
>
>     ]
>
>   }
>
> ```
>
>
>
> And here is what every other partition looks like:
>
> ```
>
> {
>
>     "partition" : {
>
>       "key" : [ "some_other_user_id", "user_id", "some_site_id" ],
>
>       "position" : 1133
>
>     },
>
>     "rows" : [
>
>       {
>
>         "type" : "row",
>
>         "position" : 1234,
>
>         "clustering" : [ "2019-01-22 17:59:35.547Z" ],
>
>         "liveness_info" : { "tstamp" : "2019-01-22T17:59:35.708Z", "ttl" :
> 86400, "expires_at" : "2019-01-23T17:59:35Z", "expired" : true },
>
>         "cells" : [
>
>           { "name" : "activity_data", "deletion_info" : {
> "local_delete_time" : "2019-01-22T17:59:35Z" }
>
>           }
>
>         ]
>
>       }
>
>     ]
>
>   }
>
> ```
>
>
>
> As expected, almost all of the data except this one suspicious partition
> has a ttl and is already expired. But if a partition isn't expired and I
> see it in the sstable, why wouldn't I see it executing a CQL query against
> the CF? Why would this sstable be preventing so many other sstable's from
> getting cleaned up?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:34 PM Mike Torra <mto...@salesforce.com> wrote:
>
> Hello -
>
>
>
> I have a 48 node C* cluster spread across 4 AWS regions with RF=3. A few
> months ago I started noticing disk usage on some nodes increasing
> consistently. At first I solved the problem by destroying the nodes and
> rebuilding them, but the problem returns.
>
>
>
> I did some more investigation recently, and this is what I found:
>
> - I narrowed the problem down to a CF that uses TWCS, by simply looking at
> disk space usage
>
> - in each region, 3 nodes have this problem of growing disk space (matches
> replication factor)
>
> - on each node, I tracked down the problem to a particular SSTable using
> `sstableexpiredblockers`
>
> - in the SSTable, using `sstabledump`, I found a row that does not have a
> ttl like the other rows, and appears to be from someone else on the team
> testing something and forgetting to include a ttl
>
> - all other rows show "expired: true" except this one, hence my suspicion
>
> - when I query for that particular partition key, I get no results
>
> - I tried deleting the row anyways, but that didn't seem to change anything
>
> - I also tried `nodetool scrub`, but that didn't help either
>
>
>
> Would this rogue row without a ttl explain the problem? If so, why? If
> not, does anyone have any other ideas? Why does the row show in
> `sstabledump` but not when I query for it?
>
>
>
> I appreciate any help or suggestions!
>
>
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>

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