Hi Eric,

I had not seen your talk, it was very informative thank you! :)

Based on your talk, I can see how tombstones might noget get removed during
normal operations under certain conditions. But I am not sure our scenario
fit those conditions.

We have less than 100.000 live rows in the table in question, and when
flushed the table is roughly 60Mb. Using "nodetool compact" I did several
full compactions of the table. How ever, I always ended up with two
sstables as Jeff mentions, so perhaps some kind of issue with the
incremental repair...

man. 12. feb. 2018 kl. 15.46 skrev Eric Stevens <migh...@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> Just in case you haven't seen it, I gave a talk last year at the summit.
> In the first part of the talk I speak for a while about the lifecycle of a
> tombstone, and how they don't always get cleaned up when you might expect.
>
> https://youtu.be/BhGkSnBZgJA
>
> It looks like you're deleting cluster keys on a partition that you always
> append to?  If so those tombstones can never be cleaned up - see the talk.
> I don't know if this is what's affecting you or not, but it might be
> worthwhile to consider.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 3:17 AM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When you force compacted, did you end up with 1 sstable or 2?
>>
>> If 2, did you ever run (incremental) repair on some of the data? If so,
>> it moves the repaired sstable to a different compaction manager, which
>> means it won’t purge the tombstone if it shadows data in the unrepaired set
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Jirsa
>>
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Bo Finnerup Madsen <bo.gunder...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well for anyone having the same issue, I "fixed" it by dropping and
>> re-creating the table.
>>
>> fre. 2. feb. 2018 kl. 07.29 skrev Steinmaurer, Thomas <
>> thomas.steinmau...@dynatrace.com>:
>>
>>> Right. In this case, cleanup should have done the necessary work here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bo Finnerup Madsen [mailto:bo.gunder...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Freitag, 02. Februar 2018 06:59
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Old tombstones not being cleaned up
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We did start with a 3 node cluster and a RF of 3, then added another 3
>>> nodes and again another 3 nodes. So it is a good guess :)
>>>
>>> But I have run both repair and cleanup against the table on all nodes,
>>> would that not have removed any stray partitions?
>>>
>>> tor. 1. feb. 2018 kl. 22.31 skrev Steinmaurer, Thomas <
>>> thomas.steinmau...@dynatrace.com>:
>>>
>>> Did you started with a 9 node cluster from the beginning or did you
>>> extend / scale out your cluster (with vnodes) beyond the replication factor?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If later applies and if you are deleting by explicit deletes and not via
>>> TTL, then nodes might not see the deletes anymore, as a node might not own
>>> the partition anymore after a topology change (e.g. scale out beyond the
>>> keyspace RF).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a very wild guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bo Finnerup Madsen [mailto:bo.gunder...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Donnerstag, 01. Februar 2018 22:14
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Old tombstones not being cleaned up
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We do not use TTL anywhere...records are inserted and deleted "manually"
>>> by our software.
>>>
>>> tor. 1. feb. 2018 kl. 18.29 skrev Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com>:
>>>
>>> Changing the defaul TTL doesn’t change the TTL on the existing data,
>>> only new data. It’s only set if you don’t supply one yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:35 PM Bo Finnerup Madsen <
>>> bo.gunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are running a small 9 node Cassandra v2.1.17 cluster. The cluster
>>> generally runs fine, but we have one table that are causing OOMs because an
>>> enormous amount of tombstones.
>>>
>>> Looking at the data in the table (sstable2json), the first of the
>>> tombstones are almost a year old. The table was initially created with a
>>> gc_grace_period of 10 days, but I have now lowered it to 1 hour.
>>>
>>> I have run a full repair of the table across all nodes. I have forced
>>> several major compactions of the table by using "nodetool compact", and
>>> also tried to switch from LeveledCompaction to SizeTierCompaction and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What could cause cassandra to keep these tombstones?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sstable2json:
>>>
>>> {"key": "foo",
>>>
>>>  "cells":
>>> [["0000082f-25ef-4324-bb8a-8cf013c823c1:_","0000082f-25ef-4324-bb8a-8cf013c823c1:!",1507819135148000,"t",1507819135],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["000010f3-c05d-4ab9-9b8a-e6ebd8f5818a:_","000010f3-c05d-4ab9-9b8a-e6ebd8f5818a:!",1503661731697000,"t",1503661731],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["00001d7a-ce95-4c74-b67e-f8cdffec4f85:_","00001d7a-ce95-4c74-b67e-f8cdffec4f85:!",1509542102909000,"t",1509542102],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["00001dd3-ae22-4f6e-944a-8cfa147cde68:_","00001dd3-ae22-4f6e-944a-8cfa147cde68:!",1512418006838000,"t",1512418006],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["000022cc-d69c-4596-89e5-3e976c0cb9a8:_","000022cc-d69c-4596-89e5-3e976c0cb9a8:!",1497377448737001,"t",1497377448],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["00002777-4b1a-4267-8efc-c43054e63170:_","00002777-4b1a-4267-8efc-c43054e63170:!",1491014691515001,"t",1491014691],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["000061e8-f48b-4484-96f1-f8b6a3ed8f9f:_","000061e8-f48b-4484-96f1-f8b6a3ed8f9f:!",1500820300544000,"t",1500820300],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["000063da-f165-449b-b65d-2b7869368734:_","000063da-f165-449b-b65d-2b7869368734:!",1512806634968000,"t",1512806634],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["0000656f-f8b5-472b-93ed-1a893002f027:_","0000656f-f8b5-472b-93ed-1a893002f027:!",1514554716141000,"t",1514554716],
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> {"key": "bar",
>>>
>>>  "metadata": {"deletionInfo":
>>> {"markedForDeleteAt":1517402198585982,"localDeletionTime":1517402198}},
>>>
>>>  "cells":
>>> [["000af8c2-ffe9-4217-9032-61a1cd21781d:_","000af8c2-ffe9-4217-9032-61a1cd21781d:!",1495094965916000,"t",1495094965],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["005b96cb-7eb3-4ec3-bfa2-8573e46892f4:_","005b96cb-7eb3-4ec3-bfa2-8573e46892f4:!",1516360186865000,"t",1516360186],
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ["005ec167-aa61-4868-a3ae-a44b00099eb6:_","005ec167-aa61-4868-a3ae-a44b00099eb6:!",1516671840920002,"t",1516671840],
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sstablemetadata:
>>>
>>> stablemetadata
>>> /data/cassandra/data/xxx/yyy-9ed502c0734011e6a128fdafd829b1c6/ddp-yyy-ka-2741-Data.db
>>>
>>> SSTable:
>>> /data/cassandra/data/xxx/yyy-9ed502c0734011e6a128fdafd829b1c6/ddp-yyy-ka-2741
>>>
>>> Partitioner: org.apache.cassandra.dht.Murmur3Partitioner
>>>
>>> Bloom Filter FP chance: 0.100000
>>>
>>> Minimum timestamp: 1488976211688000
>>>
>>> Maximum timestamp: 1517468644066000
>>>
>>> SSTable max local deletion time: 2147483647
>>>
>>> Compression ratio: 0.5121956624389545
>>>
>>> Estimated droppable tombstones: 18.00161766553587
>>>
>>> SSTable Level: 0
>>>
>>> Repaired at: 0
>>>
>>> ReplayPosition(segmentId=1517168739626, position=22690189
>>> <22%2069%2001%2089>)
>>>
>>> Estimated tombstone drop times:%n
>>>
>>> 1488976211:         1
>>>
>>> 1489906506:      4706
>>>
>>> 1490174752:      6111
>>>
>>> 1490449759:      6554
>>>
>>> 1490735410:      6559
>>>
>>> 1491016789:      6369
>>>
>>> 1491347982:     10216
>>>
>>> 1491680214:     13502
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> desc:
>>>
>>> CREATE TABLE xxx.yyy (
>>>
>>>     ti text,
>>>
>>>     uuid text,
>>>
>>>     json_data text,
>>>
>>>     PRIMARY KEY (ti, uuid)
>>>
>>> ) WITH CLUSTERING ORDER BY (uuid ASC)
>>>
>>>     AND bloom_filter_fp_chance = 0.1
>>>
>>>     AND caching = '{"keys":"ALL", "rows_per_partition":"NONE"}'
>>>
>>>     AND comment = ''
>>>
>>>     AND compaction = {'class':
>>> 'org.apache.cassandra.db.compaction.LeveledCompactionStrategy'}
>>>
>>>     AND compression = {'sstable_compression':
>>> 'org.apache.cassandra.io.compress.LZ4Compressor'}
>>>
>>>     AND dclocal_read_repair_chance = 0.1
>>>
>>>     AND default_time_to_live = 0
>>>
>>>     AND gc_grace_seconds = 3600
>>>
>>>     AND max_index_interval = 2048
>>>
>>>     AND memtable_flush_period_in_ms = 0
>>>
>>>     AND min_index_interval = 128
>>>
>>>     AND read_repair_chance = 0.0
>>>
>>>     AND speculative_retry = '99.0PERCENTILE';
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jmx props(picture):
>>>
>>> [image: image001.png]
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