The fact is Oracle is horrible :)
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Brice Dutheil <brice.duth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Let's not debate opinion on the Oracle stewardship here, we certainly have > different views that come from different experiences. > > Let's discuss facts instead :) > > -- Brice > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote: > >> yeah well I don't think Oracle is treating Java the way Google is >> treating Go and I am not a big fan of Go mainly because I understand the >> JVM is far more robust than anything that is out there. >> >> "Oracle just doesn't understand open source" These are the words from >> James Gosling himself >> >> I do think its better to stay away from Oracle as we never know when they >> would switch open source to closed source. Given their history of practices >> their statements are not credible. >> >> I am pretty sure the community would take care of OpenJDK. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Brice Dutheil <brice.duth...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The problem described in this article is different than what you have on >>> your servers and I’ll add this article should be reaad with caution, as The >>> Register is known for sensationalism. The article itself has no substantial >>> proof or enough details. In my opinion this article is clickbait. >>> >>> Anyway there’s several point to think of instead of just swicthing to >>> OpenJDK : >>> >>> - >>> >>> There is technical differences between Oracle JDK and openjdk. Where >>> there’s licensing issues some libraries are closed source in Hotspot like >>> font, rasterizer or cryptography and OpenJDK use open source alternatives >>> which leads to different bugs or performance. I believe they also have >>> minor differences in the hotspot code to plug in stuff like Java Mission >>> Control or Flight Recorder or hotpost specific options. >>> Also I believe that Oracle JDK is more tested or more up to date >>> than OpenJDK. >>> >>> So while OpenJDK is functionnaly the same as Oracle JDK it may not >>> have the same performance or the same bugs or the same security fixes. >>> (Unless are your ready to test that with your production servers and your >>> production data). >>> >>> I don’t know if datastax have released the details of their >>> configuration when they test Cassandra. >>> - >>> >>> There’s also a question of support. OpeJDK is for the community. >>> Oracle can offer support but maybe only for Oracle JDK. >>> >>> Twitter uses OpenJDK, but they have their own JVM support team. Not >>> sure everyone can afford that. >>> >>> As a side note I’ll add that Oracle is paying talented engineers to work >>> on the JVM to make it great. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> -- Brice >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Looking at this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/16/oracle_targets_ >>>> java_users_non_compliance/?mt=1481919461669 I don't know why Cassandra >>>> recommends Oracle JVM? >>>> >>>> JVM is a great piece of software but I would like to stay away from >>>> Oracle as much as possible. Oracle is just horrible the way they are >>>> dealing with Java in General. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
