Yes, I can see the potential problem in theory. However, we never do your #2. 
Generally, we don’t have unused spare hardware. We just fix the host that is 
down and run repairs. (Side note: while I have seen nodes fight it out over who 
owns a particular token in earlier versions, it seems that 1.2+ doesn’t allow 
that to happen as easily. The second node will just not come up.)

For most of our use cases, I would agree with your Coli Conjecture.


Sean Durity

From: Robert Coli [mailto:rc...@eventbrite.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 4:41 PM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Re: Restart Cassandra automatically

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:20 AM, 
<sean_r_dur...@homedepot.com<mailto:sean_r_dur...@homedepot.com>> wrote:
Call me naïve, but we do use an in-house built program for keeping nodes 
started (based on a flag-check). The program is something that was written for 
all kinds of daemon processes here, not Cassandra specifically. The basic idea 
is that is runs a status check. If that fails, and the flag is set, start 
Cassandra. In my opinion, it has helped more than hurt us – especially with the 
very fragile 1.1 releases that were prone to heap problems.

Ok, you're naïve.. ;P

But seriously, think of this scenario :

1) Node A, responsible for range A-M, goes down due to hardware failure of a 
disk in a RAID
2) Node B is put into service and is made responsible for A-M
3) Months pass
4) Node A comes back up, announces that it is responsible for A-M, and the 
cluster agrees

Consistency is now permanently broken for any involved rows. Why doesn't it 
(usually) matter?

It's not so much that you are naïve but that you are providing still more 
support for the Coli Conjecture : "If you are using a distributed database you 
probably do not care about consistency, even if you think you do." You have 
repeatedly chosen Availability over Consistency and it has never had a negative 
impact on your actual application.

=Rob


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