Hi guys,
Cassandra is still new for me, but I have a lot of java tuning experience.

For root cause detection of performance degradations its always good to
start with collecting a series of java thread dumps. Take at problem
occurrence using a loopscript for example 60 thread dumps with an interval
of 1 or 2 seconds.
Then load those dumps into IBM thread dump analyzer or in "eclipse mat" or
any similar tool and see which methods appear to be most active or blocking
others.

Its really very useful

Same can be be done in a normal situation to compare the difference.

That should give more insights.

Cheers, Corry

Op vrijdag 29 januari 2016 heeft Peddi, Praveen <pe...@amazon.com> het
volgende geschreven:

> Hello,
> We have another update on performance on 2.1.11. compression_chunk_size
>  didn’t really help much but We changed concurrent_compactors from default
> to 64 in 2.1.11 and read latencies improved significantly. However, 2.1.11
> read latencies are still 1.5 slower than 2.0.9. One thing we noticed in JMX
> metric that could affect read latencies is that 2.1.11 is running
> ReadRepairedBackground and ReadRepairedBlocking too frequently compared to
> 2.0.9 even though our read_repair_chance is same on both. Could anyone
> shed some light on why 2.1.11 could be running read repair 10 to 50 times
> more in spite of same configuration on both clusters?
>
> dclocal_read_repair_chance=0.100000 AND
> read_repair_chance=0.000000 AND
>
> Here is the table for read repair metrics for both clusters.
> 2.0.9 2.1.11
> ReadRepairedBackground 5MinAvg 0.006 0.1
> 15MinAvg 0.009 0.153
> ReadRepairedBlocking 5MinAvg 0.002 0.55
> 15MinAvg 0.007 0.91
>
> Thanks
> Praveen
>
> From: Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com');>>
> Reply-To: <user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>>
> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:58 PM
> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>" <
> user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>>
> Subject: Re: Slow performance after upgrading from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11
>
> Sorry I wasn’t as explicit as I should have been
>
> The same buffer size is used by compressed reads as well, but tuned with
> compression_chunk_size table property. It’s likely true that if you lower
> compression_chunk_size, you’ll see improved read performance.
>
> This was covered in the AWS re:Invent youtube link I sent in my original
> reply.
>
>
>
> From: "Peddi, Praveen"
> Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>"
> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 11:36 AM
> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>", Zhiyan Shao
> Cc: "Agrawal, Pratik"
> Subject: Re: Slow performance after upgrading from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11
>
> Hi,
> We will try with reduced “rar_buffer_size” to 4KB. However CASSANDRA-10249
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-10249> says "this only
> affects users who have 1. disabled compression, 2. switched to buffered i/o
> from mmap’d”. None of this is true for us I believe. We use default disk_
> access_mode which should be mmap. We also used LZ4Compressor when created
> table.
>
> We will let you know if this property had any effect. We were testing with
> 2.1.11 and this was only fixed in 2.1.12 so we need to play with latest
> version.
>
> Praveen
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com');>>
> Reply-To: <user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>>
> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 1:29 PM
> To: Zhiyan Shao <zhiyan.s...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zhiyan.s...@gmail.com');>>, "
> user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>" <
> user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>>
> Cc: "Agrawal, Pratik" <paagr...@amazon.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','paagr...@amazon.com');>>
> Subject: Re: Slow performance after upgrading from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11
>
> This may be due to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-10249
>  / https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-8894 - whether or not
> this is really the case depends on how much of your data is in page cache,
> and whether or not you’re using mmap. Since the original question was asked
> by someone using small RAM instances, it’s possible.
>
> We mitigate this by dropping compression_chunk_size in order to force a
> smaller buffer on reads, so we don’t over read very small blocks. This has
> other side effects (lower compression ratio, more garbage during
> streaming), but significantly speeds up read workloads for us.
>
>
> From: Zhiyan Shao
> Date: Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 9:49 AM
> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>"
> Cc: Jeff Jirsa, "Agrawal, Pratik"
> Subject: Re: Slow performance after upgrading from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11
>
> Praveen, if you search "Read is slower in 2.1.6 than 2.0.14" in this
> forum, you can find another thread I sent a while ago. The perf test I did
> indicated that read is slower for 2.1.6 than 2.0.14 so we stayed with
> 2.0.14.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Peddi, Praveen <pe...@amazon.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pe...@amazon.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jeff for your reply. Sorry for delayed response. We were running
>> some more tests and wanted to wait for the results.
>>
>> So basically we saw higher CPU with 2.1.11 was higher compared to 2.0.9
>> (see below) for the same exact load test. Memory spikes were also
>> aggressive on 2.1.11.
>>
>> So we wanted to rule out any of our custom setting so we ended up doing
>> some testing with Cassandra stress test and default Cassandra installation.
>> Here are the results we saw between 2.0.9 and 2.1.11. Both are default
>> installations and both use Cassandra stress test with same params. This is
>> the closest apple-apple comparison we can get. As you can see both read and
>> write latencies are 30 to 50% worse in 2.1.11 than 2.0.9. Since we are
>> using default installation.
>>
>> *Highlights of the test:*
>> Load: 2x reads and 1x writes
>> CPU:  2.0.9 (goes upto 25%)  compared to 2.1.11 (goes upto 60%)
>>
>> Local read latency: 0.039 ms for 2.0.9 and 0.066 ms for 2.1.11
>>
>> Local write Latency: 0.033 ms for 2.0.9 Vs 0.030 ms for 2.1.11
>>
>> *One observation is, As the number of threads are increased, 2.1.11 read
>> latencies are getting worse compared to 2.0.9 (see below table for 24
>> threads vs 54 threads)*
>> Not sure if anyone has done this kind of comparison before and what their
>> thoughts are. I am thinking for this same reason
>>
>> 2.0.9 Plain  type       total ops     op/s     pk/s    row/s     mean
>> med 0.95 0.99 0.999      max    time
>>  16 threadCount  READ 66854 7205 7205 7205 1.6 1.3 2.8 3.5 9.6 85.3 9.3
>>  16 threadCount  WRITE 33146 3572 3572 3572 1.3 1 2.6 3.3 7 206.5 9.3
>>  16 threadCount  total 100000 10777 10777 10777 1.5 1.3 2.7 3.4 7.9 206.5
>> 9.3
>> 2.1.11 Plain
>>  16 threadCount  READ 67096 6818 6818 6818 1.6 1.5 2.6 3.5 7.9 61.7 9.8
>>  16 threadCount  WRITE 32904 3344 3344 3344 1.4 1.3 2.3 3 6.5 56.7 9.8
>>  16 threadCount  total 100000 10162 10162 10162 1.6 1.4 2.5 3.2 6 61.7
>> 9.8
>> 2.0.9 Plain
>>  24 threadCount  READ 66414 8167 8167 8167 2 1.6 3.7 7.5 16.7 208 8.1
>>  24 threadCount  WRITE 33586 4130 4130 4130 1.7 1.3 3.4 5.4 25.6 45.4 8.1
>>  24 threadCount  total 100000 12297 12297 12297 1.9 1.5 3.5 6.2 15.2 208
>> 8.1
>> 2.1.11 Plain
>>  24 threadCount  READ 66628 7433 7433 7433 2.2 2.1 3.4 4.3 8.4 38.3 9
>>  24 threadCount  WRITE 33372 3723 3723 3723 2 1.9 3.1 3.8 21.9 37.2 9
>>  24 threadCount  total 100000 11155 11155 11155 2.1 2 3.3 4.1 8.8 38.3 9
>> 2.0.9 Plain
>>  54 threadCount  READ 67115 13419 13419 13419 2.8 2.6 4.2 6.4 36.9 82.4 5
>>  54 threadCount  WRITE 32885 6575 6575 6575 2.5 2.3 3.9 5.6 15.9 81.5 5
>>  54 threadCount  total 100000 19993 19993 19993 2.7 2.5 4.1 5.7 13.9 82.4
>> 5
>> 2.1.11 Plain
>>  54 threadCount  READ 66780 8951 8951 8951 4.3 3.9 6.8 9.7 49.4 69.9 7.5
>>  54 threadCount  WRITE 33220 4453 4453 4453 3.5 3.2 5.7 8.2 36.8 68 7.5
>>  54 threadCount  total 100000 13404 13404 13404 4 3.7 6.6 9.2 48 69.9 7.5
>>
>> From: Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com');>>
>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 1:01 AM
>> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>" <
>> user@cassandra.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>>, Peddi
>> Praveen <pe...@amazon.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pe...@amazon.com');>>
>> Subject: Re: Slow performance after upgrading from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11
>>
>> Anecdotal evidence typically agrees that 2.1 is faster than 2.0 (our
>> experience was anywhere from 20-60%, depending on workload).
>>
>> However, it’s not necessarily true that everything behaves exactly the
>> same – in particular, memtables are different, commitlog segment handling
>> is different, and GC params may need to be tuned differently for 2.1 than
>> 2.0.
>>
>> When the system is busy, what’s it actually DOING? Cassandra exposes a
>> TON of metrics – have you plugged any into a reporting system to see what’s
>> going on? Is your latency due to pegged cpu, iowait/disk queues or gc
>> pauses?
>>
>> My colleagues spent a lot of time validating different AWS EBS configs
>> (video from reinvent at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-mgOcOSd4),
>> 2.1 was faster in almost every case, but you’re using an instance size I
>> don’t believe we tried (too little RAM to be viable in production).  c3.2xl
>> only gives you 15G of ram – most “performance” based systems want 2-4x that
>> (people running G1 heaps usually start at 16G heaps and leave another
>> 16-30G for page cache), you’re running fairly small hardware – it’s
>> possible that 2.1 isn’t “as good” on smaller hardware.
>>
>> (I do see your domain, presumably you know all of this, but just to be
>> sure):
>>
>> You’re using c3, so presumably you’re using EBS – are you using GP2?
>> Which volume sizes? Are they the same between versions? Are you hitting
>> your iops limits? Running out of burst tokens? Do you have enhanced
>> networking enabled? At load, what part of your system is stressed? Are you
>> cpu bound? Are you seeing GC pauses hurt latency? Have you tried changing
>> memtable_allocation_type -> offheap objects  (available in 2.1, not in
>> 2.0)?
>>
>> Tuning gc_grace is weird – do you understand what it does? Are you
>> overwriting or deleting a lot of data in your test (that’d be unusual)? Are
>> you doing a lot of compaction?
>>
>>
>> From: "Peddi, Praveen"
>> Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>"
>> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 11:41 AM
>> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','user@cassandra.apache.org');>"
>> Subject: Slow performance after upgrading from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11
>>
>> Hi,
>> We have upgraded Cassandra from 2.0.9 to 2.1.11 in our loadtest
>> environment with pretty much same yaml settings in both (removed unused
>> yaml settings and renamed few others) and we have noticed performance on
>> 2.1.11 is worse compared to 2.0.9. *After more investigation we found
>> that the performance gets worse as we increase replication factor on 2.1.11
>> where as on 2.0.9 performance is more or less same.* Has anything
>> architecturally changed as far as replication is concerned in 2.1.11?
>>
>> All googling only suggested 2.1.11 should be FASTER than 2.0.9 so we are
>> obviously doing something different. However the client code, load test is
>> all identical in both cases.
>>
>> Details:
>> Nodes: 3 ec2 c3.2x large
>> R/W Consistency: QUORUM
>> Renamed memtable_total_space_in_mb to memtable_heap_space_in_mb and
>> removed unused properties from yaml file.
>> We run compaction aggressive compaction with low gc_grace (15 mins) but
>> this is true for both 2.0.9 and 2.1.11.
>>
>> As you can see, all p50, p90 and p99 latencies stayed with in 10%
>> difference on 2.0.9 when we increased RF from 1 to 3, where as on 2.1.11
>> latencies almost doubled (especially reads are much slower than writes).
>>
>> # Nodes  RF # of rows 2.0.9 2.1.11
>> READ
>>       P50 P90 P99 P50 P90 P99
>> 3 1 450 306 594 747 425 849 1085
>> 3 3 450 358 634 877 708 1274 2642
>>
>> WRITE
>> 3 1 10 26 80 179 37 131 196
>> 3 3 10 31 96 184 46 166 468
>> Any pointers on how to debug performance issues will be appreciated.
>>
>> Praveen
>>
>
>

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