Hi, Jonathan:
Thanks for your answer. My original goal of this question is not really related 
to backup/restore, but to see if we can skip the Full Snapshot during ETL 
transferring the data from SSTable files of Cassandra into another Hadoop 
Cluster.
Right now, our production generates a full snapshot once a week, and does 
incremental backup every day. Our ETL implementation will parse the SSTable 
files, catch the delta change, and load them into Hadoop.
Of course, the Full Snapshot is just bigger and bigger every time, so I was 
wondering if we can avoid processing the snapshot, instead just the incremental 
backups, as it is much smaller comparing to snapshot.
But based on currently how Cassandra does the incremental backups and snapshot, 
to make sure we catch all the changed data, I think we have to process the 
weekly full snapshot.
Thanks
Yong

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 10:33:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Backup/Restore in Cassandra
From: jlacefi...@datastax.com
To: user@cassandra.apache.org

Hello,
    Full snapshot forces a flush, yes.    Incremental hard-links to SSTables, 
yes.
   This question really depends on how your cluster was "lost".  

   Node Loss:  You would be able to restore a node based on restoring backups + 
commit log or just by using repair.   Cluster Loss: (all nodes down scenario 
with recoverable machines/disks):  You would be able to restore to the point 
where you captured your last incremental backup.  If you had a commit log, then 
those operations would be replayed during bootstrapping.  You would also have 
to restore SSTables that were written to disk but not captured in an 
incremental backup.
   Cluster Loss: (all nodes down scenario with unrecoverable machines/disks):  
You would only be able to restore to the last incremental backup point.  This 
assumes you save backups off Cluster.

   The commit log's goal is to provide durability in case of node failure prior 
to a flush operation.  The commit log will be replayed during bootstrapping a 
node and will repopulate memtables.  There is also a commit log archive and 
restore feature as well:  
http://www.datastax.com/documentation/cassandra/2.0/cassandra/configuration/configLogArchive_t.html.
  I have not personally used this feature so cannot comment on it's 
performance/stability.

  Does this help?
  BTW:  Here's the 1.2 documentation for backup and restore - 
http://www.datastax.com/documentation/cassandra/1.2/cassandra/operations/ops_backup_restore_c.html
              Here's the 2.0 documentation for backup and restore - 
http://www.datastax.com/documentation/cassandra/2.0/cassandra/operations/ops_backup_restore_c.html

Thanks,
Jonathan

Jonathan LacefieldSolutions Architect, DataStax
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:14 AM, java8964 <java8...@hotmail.com> wrote:




Hi, 
Currently I am looking how the bacup/restore be done in Cassandra, based the 
document from DataStax: 
http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.1/backup_restore

Here is one way to do it:
1) Do a full snapshot every week2) Enable incremental backup every day
So with last snapshot + the incremental backups after that snapshot, you can 
restore the cluster to the stage before it is lost.

Here are my understanding  how Cassandra will flush from Memtable to SSTable 
files in snapshot or incremental backups:
1) Full snapshot will force Cassandra flush all memtables to SSTable files, but 
incremental backup won't.
2) Incremental backup just hard-link all the SSTables after the last snapshot.
Here is my question:
If the my above understanding is correct, let's say there is a data change 
happened after the last snapshot, then recorded into commit log, and stored in 
memtable, but never flush to the SSTables yet, at this time, we lost our 
cluster. Will that change be lost just based on last snapshot plus incremental 
backups? Or besides the last snapshot plus incremental backups, we also need 
all commit log for a restore?

Thanks
Yong                                      

                                          

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