I responded on your other thread. Cheers
----------------- Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer New Zealand @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 4/12/2012, at 5:31 PM, Yiming Sun <yiming....@gmail.com> wrote: > I ran into a different problem with Row cache recently, sent a message to the > list, but it didn't get picked up. I am hoping someone can help me > understand the issue. Our data also has rather wide rows, not necessarily in > the thousands range, but definitely in the upper-hundreds levels. They are > hosted in v1.1.1. I was doing a performance test and enabled off-heap row > cache of 1GB for each of our cassandra node (each node has at least 16GB of > memory). The test code was requesting a fixed set of 5000 rows from the > cluster and ran a few times, but using nodetool info, the row cache hit rate > was very low, and a few of the nodes had 0 hits despite the row cache was > full. > > so what i was trying to understand is how the row cache can be full but with > 0 hits? > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Bill de hÓra <b...@dehora.net> wrote: > A Cassandra JVM will generally not function well with with caches and wide > rows. Probably the most important thing to understand is Ed's point, that the > row cache caches the entire row, not just the slice that was read out. What > you've seen is almost exactly the observed behaviour I'd expect with enabling > either cache provider over wide rows. > > - the on-heap cache will result in evictions that crush the JVM trying to > manage garbage. This is also the case so if the rows have an uneven size > distribution (as small rows can push out a single large row, large rows push > out many small ones, etc). > > - the off heap cache will spend a lot of time serializing and deserializing > wide rows, such that it can increase latency relative to just reading from > disk and leverage the filesystem's cache directly. > > The cache resizing behaviour does exist to preserve the server's memory, but > it can also cause a death spiral in the on-heap case, because a relatively > smaller cache may result in data being evicted more frequently. I've seen > cases where sizing up the cache can stabilise a server's memory. > > This isn't just a Cassandra thing, it simply happens to be very evident with > that system - generally to get an effective benefit from a cache, the data > should be contiguously sized and not too large to allow effective cache > 'lining'. > > Bill > > > On 02/12/12 21:36, Mike wrote: > Hello, > > We recently hit an issue within our Cassandra based application. We > have a relatively new Column Family with some very wide rows (10's of > thousands of columns, or more in some cases). During a periodic > activity, we the range of columns to retrieve various pieces of > information, a segment at a time. > > We do these same queries frequently at various stages of the process, > and I thought the application could see a performance benefit from row > caching. We have a small row cache (100MB per node) already enabled, > and I enabled row caching on the new column family. > > The results were very negative. When performing range queries with a > limit of 200 results, for a small minority of the rows in the new column > family, performance plummeted. CPU utilization on the Cassandra node > went through the roof, and it started chewing up memory. Some queries > to this column family hung completely. > > According to the logs, we started getting frequent GCInspector > messages. Cassandra started flushing the largest mem_tables due to > hitting the "flush_largest_memtables_at" of 75%, and scaling back the > key/row caches. However, to Cassandra's credit, it did not die with an > OutOfMemory error. Its measures to emergency measures to conserve > memory worked, and the cluster stayed up and running. No real errors > showed in the logs, except for Messages getting drop, which I believe > was caused by what was going on with CPU and memory. > > Disabling row caching on this new column family has resolved the issue > for now, but, is there something fundamental about row caching that I am > missing? > > We are running Cassandra 1.1.2 with a 6 node cluster, with a replication > factor of 3. > > Thanks, > -Mike > > > >