There are no blockers to upgrading to 1.0.X.

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Aaron Morton
Freelance Developer
@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com

On 28/01/2012, at 7:48 AM, R. Verlangen wrote:

> Ok. Seems that an upgrade might fix these problems. Is Cassandra 1.x.x stable 
> enough to upgrade for, or should we wait for a couple of weeks?
> 
> 2012/1/27 Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com>
> I would not say that issuing restart after x days is a good idea. You are 
> mostly developing a superstition. You should find the source of the problem. 
> It could be jmx or thrift clients not closing connections. We don't restart 
> nodes on a regiment they work fine.
> 
> 
> On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Mike Panchenko <m...@mihasya.com> wrote:
> > There are two relevant bugs (that I know of), both resolved in somewhat 
> > recent versions, which make somewhat regular restarts beneficial
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2868 (memory leak in 
> > GCInspector, fixed in 0.7.9/0.8.5)
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2252 (heap fragmentation 
> > due to the way memtables used to be allocated, refactored in 1.0.0)
> > Restarting daily is probably too frequent for either one of those problems. 
> > We usually notice degraded performance in our ancient cluster after ~2 
> > weeks w/o a restart.
> > As Aaron mentioned, if you have plenty of disk space, there's no reason to 
> > worry about "cruft" sstables. The size of your active set is what matters, 
> > and you can determine if that's getting too big by watching for iowait (due 
> > to reads from the data partition) and/or paging activity of the java 
> > process. When you hit that problem, the solution is to 1. try to tune your 
> > caches and 2. add more nodes to spread the load. I'll reiterate - looking 
> > at raw disk space usage should not be your guide for that.
> > "Forcing" a gc generally works, but should not be relied upon (note 
> > "suggest" in 
> > http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/lang/System.html#gc()). It's 
> > great news that 1.0 uses a better mechanism for releasing unused sstables.
> > nodetool compact triggers a "major" compaction and is no longer a 
> > recommended by datastax (details here 
> > http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/operations/tuning#tuning-compaction bottom 
> > of the page).
> > Hope this helps.
> > Mike.
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:14 PM, aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > That disk usage pattern is to be expected in pre 1.0 versions. Disk usage 
> > is far less interesting than disk free space, if it's using 60 GB and there 
> > is 200GB thats ok. If it's using 60Gb and there is 6MB free thats a problem.
> > In pre 1.0 the compacted files are deleted on disk by waiting for the JVM 
> > do decide to GC all remaining references. If there is not enough space (to 
> > store the total size of the files it is about to write or compact) on disk 
> > GC is forced and the files are deleted. Otherwise they will get deleted at 
> > some point in the future. 
> > In 1.0 files are reference counted and space is freed much sooner. 
> > With regard to regular maintenance, node tool cleanup remvos data from a 
> > node that it is no longer a replica for. This is only of use when you have 
> > done a token move. 
> > I would not recommend a daily restart of the cassandra process. You will 
> > lose all the run time optimizations the JVM has made (i think the mapped 
> > files pages will stay resident). As well as adding additional entropy to 
> > the system which must be repaired via HH, RR or nodetool repair. 
> > If you want to see compacted files purged faster the best approach would be 
> > to upgrade to 1.0. 
> > Hope that helps. 
> > -----------------
> > Aaron Morton
> > Freelance Developer
> > @aaronmorton
> > http://www.thelastpickle.com
> > On 26/01/2012, at 9:51 AM, R. Verlangen wrote:
> >
> > In his message he explains that it's for " Forcing a GC ". GC stands for 
> > garbage collection. For some more background see:  
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science) 
> > Cheers!
> >
> > 2012/1/25 <mike...@thomsonreuters.com>
> >
> > Karl,
> >
> > Can you give a little more details on these 2 lines, what do they do?
> >
> > java -jar cmdline-jmxclient-0.10.3.jar - localhost:8080
> > java.lang:type=Memory gc
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl Hiramoto [mailto:k...@hiramoto.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:26 PM
> > To: user@cassandra.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Restart cassandra every X days?
> >
> >
> > On 01/25/12 19:18, R. Verlangen wrote:
> >> Ok thank you for your feedback. I'll add these tasks to our daily
> >> cassandra maintenance cronjob. Hopefully this will keep things under
> >> controll.
> >
> > I forgot to mention that we found that Forcing a GC also cleans up some
> > space.
> >
> >
> > in a cronjob you can do this with
> > http://crawler.archive.org/cmdline-jmxclient/
> >
> >
> > my cron
> 

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