Riyad, I'm also just getting to know the different settings and values myself :)

I believe, and it also depends on your config, CL.ONE Should ignore the loss of 
a node if your RF is 5, once you increase the CL then if you lose a node the CL 
is not met and you will get exceptions returned. 

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On 07/11/2011, at 4:32, Riyad Kalla <rka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anthony and Jaydeep, thank you for weighing in. I am glad to see that they 
> are two different values (makes more sense mentally to me).
> 
> Anthony, what you said caught my attention "to ensure all nodes have a copy 
> you may not be able to survive the loss of a single node." -- why would this 
> be the case?
> 
> I assumed (incorrectly?) that a node would simply disappear off the map until 
> I could bring it back up again, at which point all the missing values that it 
> didn't get while it was done, it would slowly retrieve from other members of 
> the ring. Is this the wrong understanding?
> 
> If forcing a replication factor equal to the number of nodes in my ring will 
> cause a hard-stop when one ring goes down (as I understood your comment to 
> mean), it seems to me I should go with a much lower replication factor... 
> something along the lines of 3 or roughly ceiling(N / 2) and just deal with 
> the latency when one of the nodes has to route a request to another server 
> when it doesn't contain the value.
> 
> Is there a better way to accomplish what I want, or is keeping the 
> replication factor that aggressively high generally a bad thing and using 
> Cassandra in the "wrong" way?
> 
> Thank you for the help.
> 
> -Riyad
> 
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:14 PM, chovatia jaydeep 
> <chovatia_jayd...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Hi Riyad,
> 
> You can set replication = 5 (number of replicas) and write with CL = ONE. 
> There is no hard requirement from Cassandra to write with CL=ALL to replicate 
> the data unless you need it. Considering your example, If you write with 
> CL=ONE then also it will replicate your data to all 5 replicas eventually.
> 
> Thank you,
> Jaydeep
> From: Riyad Kalla <rka...@gmail.com>
> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org" <user@cassandra.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 9:50 PM
> Subject: Will writes with < ALL consistency eventually propagate?
> 
> I am new to Cassandra and was curious about the following scenario...
> 
> Lets say i have a ring of 5 servers. Ultimately I would like each server to 
> be a full replication of the next (master-master-*). 
> 
> In a presentation i watched today on Cassandra, the presenter mentioned that 
> the ring members will shard data and route your requests to the right host 
> when they come in to a server that doesnt physically contain the value you 
> wanted. To the client requesting this is seamless excwpt for the added 
> latency.
> 
> If i wanted to avoid the routing and latency and ensure every server had the 
> full data set, do i have to write with a consistency level of ALL and wait 
> for all of those writes to return in my code, or can i write with a CL of 1 
> or 2 and let the ring propagate the rest of the copies to the other servers 
> in the background after my code has continued executing?
> 
> I dont mind eventual consistency in my case, but i do (eventually) want all 
> nodes to have all values and cannot tell if this is default behavior, or if 
> sharding is the default and i can only force duplicates onto the other 
> servers explicitly with a CL of ALL.
> 
> Best,
> Riyad
> 
> 

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