On Dec 9, 2010, at 17:55, Sylvain Lebresne wrote:

>> I naively assume that if I kill either node that holds N1 (i.e. node 1 or 
>> 3), N1 will still remain on another node. Only if both fail, I actually lose 
>> data. But apparently this is not how it works...
> 
> Sure, the data that N1 holds is also on another node and you won't
> lose it by only losing N1.
> But when you do a quorum query, you are saying to Cassandra "Please
> please would you fail my request
> if you can't get a response from 2 nodes". So if only 1 node holding
> the data is up at the moment of the
> query then Cassandra, which is a very polite software, do what you
> asked and fail.

And my application would fall back to ONE. Quorum writes will also fail so I 
would also use ONE so that the app stays up. What would I have to do make the 
data to redistribute when the broken node is up again? Simply call nodetool 
repair on it?

> If you want Cassandra to send you an answer with only one node up, use
> CL=ONE (as said by David).
> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Sylvain Lebresne <sylv...@yakaz.com> wrote:
>>> I'ts 2 out of the number of replicas, not the number of nodes. At RF=2, you 
>>> have
>>> 2 replicas. And since quorum is also 2 with that replication factor,
>>> you cannot lose
>>> a node, otherwise some query will end up as UnavailableException.
>>> 
>>> Again, this is not related to the total number of nodes. Even with 200
>>> nodes, if
>>> you use RF=2, you will have some query that fail (altough much less that 
>>> what
>>> you are probably seeing).
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Timo Nentwig <timo.nent...@toptarif.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 16:50, Daniel Lundin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Quorum is really only useful when RF > 2, since the for a quorum to
>>>>> succeed RF/2+1 replicas must be available.
>>>> 
>>>> 2/2+1==2 and I killed 1 of 3, so... don't get it.
>>>> 
>>>>> This means for RF = 2, consistency levels QUORUM and ALL yield the same 
>>>>> result.
>>>>> 
>>>>> /d
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Timo Nentwig <timo.nent...@toptarif.de> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've 3 servers running (0.7rc1) with a replication_factor of 2 and use 
>>>>>> quorum for writes. But when I shut down one of them 
>>>>>> UnavailableExceptions are thrown. Why is that? Isn't that the sense of 
>>>>>> quorum and a fault-tolerant DB that it continues with the remaining 2 
>>>>>> nodes and redistributes the data to the broken one as soons as its up 
>>>>>> again?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What may I be doing wrong?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thx
>>>>>> tcn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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