Thank you for the advice, I will try these settings. I am running defaults
right now. The disk subsystem is one SATA disk for commitlog and 4 SATA
disks in raid 0 for the data.

>From your email you are implying this hardware can not handle this level of
sustained writes? That kind of breaks down the commodity server concept for
me. I have never used anything but a 15k SAS disk (fastest disk money could
buy until SSD) ALWAYS with a database. I have tried to throw out that
mentality here but are you saying nothing has really changed/ Spindles
spindles spindles as fast as you can afford is what I have always known...I
guess that applies here? Do I need to spend $10k per node instead of $3.5k
to get SUSTAINED 10k writes/sec per node?



On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Benjamin Black <b...@b3k.us> wrote:

> My guess is that you have (at least) 2 problems right now:
>
> You are writing 10k ops/sec to each node, but have default memtable
> flush settings.  This is resulting in memtable flushing every 30
> seconds (default ops flush setting is 300k).  You thus have a
> proliferation of tiny sstables and are seeing minor compactions
> triggered every couple of minutes.
>
> You have started a major compaction which is now competing with those
> near constant minor compactions for far too little I/O (3 SATA drives
> in RAID0, perhaps?).  Normally, this would result in a massive
> ballooning of your heap use as all sorts of activities (like memtable
> flushes) backed up, as well.
>
> I suggest you increase the memtable flush ops to at least 10 (million)
> if you are going to sustain that many writes/sec, along with an
> increase in the flush MB to match, based on your typical bytes/write
> op.  Long term, this level of write activity demands a lot faster
> storage (iops and bandwidth).
>
>
> b
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Wayne <wav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am already running with those options. I thought maybe that is why they
> > never get completed as they keep pushed pushed down in priority? I am
> > getting timeouts now and then but for the most part the cluster keeps
> > running. Is it normal/ok for the repair and compaction to take so long?
> It
> > has been over 12 hours since they were submitted.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> yes, the AES is the repair.
> >>
> >> if you are running linux, try adding the options to reduce compaction
> >> priority from
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/PerformanceTuning
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Wayne <wav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I could tell from munin that the disk utilization was getting crazy
> >> > high,
> >> > but the strange thing is that it seemed to "stall". The utilization
> went
> >> > way
> >> > down and everything seemed to flatten out. Requests piled up and the
> >> > node
> >> > was doing nothing. It did not "crash" but was left in a useless state.
> I
> >> > do
> >> > not have access to the tpstats when that occurred. Attached is the
> munin
> >> > chart, and you can see the flat line after Friday at noon.
> >> >
> >> > I have reduced the writers from 10 per to 8 per node and they seem to
> be
> >> > still running, but I am afraid they are barely hanging on. I ran
> >> > nodetool
> >> > repair after rebooting the failed node and I do not think the repair
> >> > ever
> >> > completed. I also later ran compact on each node and some it finished
> >> > but
> >> > some it did not. Below is the tpstats currently for the node I had to
> >> > restart. Is the AE-SERVICE-STAGE the repair and compaction queued up?
> >> > It
> >> > seems several nodes are not getting enough free cycles to keep up.
> They
> >> > are
> >> > not timing out (30 sec timeout) for the most part but they are also
> not
> >> > able
> >> > to compact. Is this normal? Do I just give it time? I am migrating 2-3
> >> > TB of
> >> > data from Mysql so the load is constant and will be for days and it
> >> > seems
> >> > even with only 8 writer processes per node I am maxed out.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the advice. Any more pointers would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Pool Name                    Active   Pending      Completed
> >> > FILEUTILS-DELETE-POOL             0         0           1868
> >> > STREAM-STAGE                      1         1              2
> >> > RESPONSE-STAGE                    0         2      769158645
> >> > ROW-READ-STAGE                    0         0         140942
> >> > LB-OPERATIONS                     0         0              0
> >> > MESSAGE-DESERIALIZER-POOL         1         0     1470221842
> >> > GMFD                              0         0         169712
> >> > LB-TARGET                         0         0              0
> >> > CONSISTENCY-MANAGER               0         0              0
> >> > ROW-MUTATION-STAGE                0         1      865124937
> >> > MESSAGE-STREAMING-POOL            0         0              6
> >> > LOAD-BALANCER-STAGE               0         0              0
> >> > FLUSH-SORTER-POOL                 0         0              0
> >> > MEMTABLE-POST-FLUSHER             0         0           8088
> >> > FLUSH-WRITER-POOL                 0         0           8088
> >> > AE-SERVICE-STAGE                  1        34             54
> >> > HINTED-HANDOFF-POOL               0         0              7
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Bill de hÓra <b...@dehora.net>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 19:17 +0200, Wayne wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >  WARN [MESSAGE-DESERIALIZER-POOL:1] 2010-08-20 16:57:02,602
> >> >> > MessageDeserializationTask.java (line 47) dropping message
> >> >> > (1,078,378ms past timeout)
> >> >> >  WARN [MESSAGE-DESERIALIZER-POOL:1] 2010-08-20 16:57:02,602
> >> >> > MessageDeserializationTask.java (line 47) dropping message
> >> >> > (1,078,378ms past timeout)
> >> >>
> >> >> MESSAGE-DESERIALIZER-POOL usually backs up when other stages are
> bogged
> >> >> downstream, (eg here's Ben Black describing the symptom when the
> >> >> underlying cause is running out of disk bandwidth, well worth a watch
> >> >> http://riptano.blip.tv/file/4012133/).
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you send all of nodetool tpstats?
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Ellis
> >> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
> >> co-founder of Riptano, the source for professional Cassandra support
> >> http://riptano.com
> >
> >
>

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