So after 4096 messages get pushed on the row-read-stage queue (or any other
multiThreadedStage) the deserializer basically becomes a single-threaded
blocking queue that prevents any other inter-node RPC from occurring..?
Sounds like it's a problem either way. If the row read stage is what's
backed up, why not have the messages stack up on that stage?

Mike

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, MDP is backing up because Row-Read-Stage [the stage after MDP on
> reads] is full at 4096, meaning you're not able to process reads as
> quickly as the requests are coming in.
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mike Malone <m...@simplegeo.com> wrote:
> > This may be your
> > problem: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-1358
> > The message deserializer executor is being created with a core pool size
> of
> > 1. Since it uses a queue with unbounded capacity new requests are always
> > queued and the thread pool never grows. So the message deserializer
> becomes
> > a single-threaded bottleneck through which all traffic must pass. So your
> 16
> > cores are reduced to one core for handling all inter-node communication
> (and
> > any intra-node communication that's being passed through the messaging
> > service).
> > Mike
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Dathan Pattishall <datha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The output of htop shows threads as procs with a breakdown of how much
> cpu
> >> /etc per thread (in ncurses color!). All of these Java "procs" are just
> Java
> >> threads of only 1 instance of Cassandra per Server.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Benjamin Black <b...@b3k.us> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, I just noticed: are you running 14 instances of Cassandra on a
> >>> single physical machine or are all those java processes something
> >>> else?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Dathan Pattishall <
> datha...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > I have 4 nodes on enterprise type hardware (Lots of Ram 12GB, 16 i7
> >>> > cores,
> >>> > RAID Disks).
> >>> >
> >>> > ~# /opt/cassandra/bin/nodetool --host=localhost --port=8181 tpstats
> >>> > Pool Name                    Active   Pending      Completed
> >>> > STREAM-STAGE                      0         0              0
> >>> > RESPONSE-STAGE                    0         0         516280
> >>> > ROW-READ-STAGE                    8      4096        1164326
> >>> > LB-OPERATIONS                     0         0              0
> >>> > MESSAGE-DESERIALIZER-POOL         1    682008        1818682
> >>> > GMFD                              0         0           6467
> >>> > LB-TARGET                         0         0              0
> >>> > CONSISTENCY-MANAGER               0         0         661477
> >>> > ROW-MUTATION-STAGE                0         0         998780
> >>> > MESSAGE-STREAMING-POOL            0         0              0
> >>> > LOAD-BALANCER-STAGE               0         0              0
> >>> > FLUSH-SORTER-POOL                 0         0              0
> >>> > MEMTABLE-POST-FLUSHER             0         0              4
> >>> > FLUSH-WRITER-POOL                 0         0              4
> >>> > AE-SERVICE-STAGE                  0         0              0
> >>> > HINTED-HANDOFF-POOL               0         0              3
> >>> >
> >>> > EQX r...@cass04:~# vmstat -n 1
> >>> >
> >>> > procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system--
> >>> > -----cpu------
> >>> >  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us
> sy
> >>> > id
> >>> > wa st
> >>> >  6 10   7096 121816  16244 10375492    0    0     1     3    0    0
> 5
> >>> > 1
> >>> > 94  0  0
> >>> >  2 10   7096 116484  16248 10381144    0    0  5636     4 21210 9820
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 79 18  0
> >>> >  1  9   7096 108920  16248 10387592    0    0  6216     0 21439 9878
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 81 16  0
> >>> >  0  9   7096 129108  16248 10364852    0    0  6024     0 23280 8753
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 80 17  0
> >>> >  2  9   7096 122460  16248 10370908    0    0  6072     0 20835 9461
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 83 14  0
> >>> >  2  8   7096 115740  16260 10375752    0    0  5168   292 21049 9511
> >>> > 3  1
> >>> > 77 20  0
> >>> >  1 10   7096 108424  16260 10382300    0    0  6244     0 21483 8981
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 75 22  0
> >>> >  3  8   7096 125028  16260 10364104    0    0  5584     0 21238 9436
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 81 16  0
> >>> >  3  9   7096 117928  16260 10370064    0    0  5988     0 21505 10225
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 77 19  0
> >>> >  1  8   7096 109544  16260 10376640    0    0  6340    28 20840 8602
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 80 18  0
> >>> >  0  9   7096 127028  16240 10357652    0    0  5984     0 20853 9158
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 79 18  0
> >>> >  9  0   7096 121472  16240 10363492    0    0  5716     0 20520 8489
> >>> > 1  1
> >>> > 82 16  0
> >>> >  3  9   7096 112668  16240 10369872    0    0  6404     0 21314 9459
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 84 13  0
> >>> >  1  9   7096 127300  16236 10353440    0    0  5684     0 38914 10068
> >>> > 2  1
> >>> > 76 21  0
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > But the 16 cores are hardly utilized. Which indicates to me there is
> >>> > some
> >>> > bad thread thrashing, but why?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >   1  [|||||                                               8.3%]
> >>> > Tasks:
> >>> > 1070 total, 1 running
> >>> >   2  [                                                    0.0%]
> >>> > Load
> >>> > average: 8.34 9.05 8.82
> >>> >   3  [                                                    0.0%]
> >>> > Uptime:
> >>> > 192 days(!), 15:29:52
> >>> >   4  [|||||||||||                                        17.9%]
> >>> >   5  [|||||                                               5.7%]
> >>> >   6  [||                                                  1.3%]
> >>> >   7  [||                                                  2.6%]
> >>> >   8  [|                                                   0.6%]
> >>> >   9  [|                                                   0.6%]
> >>> >   10 [||                                                  1.9%]
> >>> >   11 [||                                                  1.9%]
> >>> >   12 [||                                                  1.9%]
> >>> >   13 [||                                                  1.3%]
> >>> >   14 [|                                                   0.6%]
> >>> >   15 [||                                                  1.3%]
> >>> >   16 [|                                                   0.6%]
> >>> >   Mem[||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||1791/12028MB]
> >>> >   Swp[|                                               6/1983MB]
> >>> >
> >>> >   PID USER     PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
> >>> > 30269 root      40   0 14100  2116   900 R  4.0  0.0  0:00.49 htop
> >>> > 24878 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  3.0 69.4  1:23.03
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24879 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  3.0 69.4  1:22.93
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24874 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  2.0 69.4  1:22.73
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24880 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  2.0 69.4  1:22.93
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24875 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  2.0 69.4  1:23.17
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24658 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  2.0 69.4  1:23.06
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24877 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  2.0 69.4  1:23.43
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24873 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M D  1.0 69.4  1:23.65
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24876 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  1.0 69.4  1:23.62
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24942 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  1.0 69.4  0:23.50
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24943 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  0.0 69.4  0:29.53
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24933 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  0.0 69.4  0:22.57
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 24939 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  0.0 69.4  0:12.73
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> > 25280 root      40   0 20.6G 8345M 6883M S  0.0 69.4  0:00.10
> >>> > /opt/java/bin/java -ea -Xms1G -Xmx7G -XX:+UseParNewGC
> -XX:+UseConcMark
> >>> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Ellis
> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
> co-founder of Riptano, the source for professional Cassandra support
> http://riptano.com
>

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